[Question] Do we have updated data about the risk of ~ permanent chronic fatigue from COVID-19?

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Months and months ago, when COVID-19 first broke, one of the most concerning aspects of the disease was the possibility that it might produce long-term chronic fatigue, based on a comparison with SARS (apparently a large percentage of the people who had SARS in 2003, had chronic fatigue symptoms years later, though I can’t find the paper right now), plus some other evidence. At the time, we didn’t have much data, but now we’re a few months into the pandemic. Obviously, we won’t know how long lasting it is, but what are the updated risk estimates of chronic fatigue from COVID?

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Anecdotal evidence suggests that it is fairly common: https://​​www.reddit.com/​​r/​​COVID19positive/​​ -- 2 of the 5 top posts from today are from people complaining about experiencing this, and are both full of comments personally relating to it. There is obviously going to be a selection bias here, but it seems like a good starting point for estimating a lower bound if you can’t find enough good studies.

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This study finds about a third of patients self-report fatigue at 2-3 weeks after a positive coronavirus test. That might be a reasonable generous upper bound for the likelihood of chronic fatigue, though I wouldn’t trust telephone studies of self-reported symptoms all that much.

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Fatigue that lasts 2-3 weeks after the worst symptoms are over is common with essentially all bad viral infections—post-flu fatigue is common for example (can’t find any good statistics on how common). So, I don’t know if 1⁄3 reporting fatigue 2 to 3 weeks after tells us anything useful about how common post-covid fatigue lasting months afterwards is

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These are patients who had a positive test in April. Most infected people without symptoms or with mild symptoms did get tested in April in the US. We know about 20-40% are asymptomatic, with higher % among younger people. So actual rate based on this study would be upper bounded by 1⁄4 (not 1⁄3) and point estimate closer to 1⁄5. (I also agree with SDM).

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From a Nature news article last week: One study> 7of 143 people with COVID-19 discharged from a hospital in Rome found that 53% had reported fatigue and 43% had shortness of breath an average of 2 months after their symptoms started. A study of patients in China showed that 25% had abnormal lung function after 3 months, and that 16% were still fatigued8.

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https://​​institute.global/​​policy/​​long-covid-reviewing-science-and-assessing-risk From the COVID Symptom Study in the UK (app based questionaire), "10 per cent of those taking part in the survey had symptoms of long Covid for a month, with between 1.5 and 2 per cent still experiencing them after three months", and they claim "long Covid is likely a bigger issue than excess deaths as a result of Covid, which are between 0.5 per cent and 1 per cent". App-based survey, so not necessarily representative of population. Not clear how severe the 3 month cases are, though they state "The most common reported symptom has been described by doctors as "profound fatigue"". Article also summarizes other related studies.