Innovanity

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Derive and Reverse

In The Solitaire Principle, I wrote that much of self-improvement might better be understood as the alignment of distinct sub-personalities rather than the optimization of some monolothic whole. One of the key assumptions there is that a mental sub-process like Babble or vanity is more like an independent sub-personality, with its own values, beliefs, and perspectives, than merely an algorithm to be slotted into a hole at will. The Solitaire Principle impels us to treat our sub-personalities like individual human beings of intrinsic value, and to engage in communication and empathy with them. Derive and Reverse are two exercises I came up with to build and understanding of and mastery over the vanity sub-personality.

Derive

Derive is an algorithm for resisting the inertia of innovanity. It is inspired by the following anecdote from Sunset at Noon: > "Rationalists obviously don’t actually take ideas seriously. Like, take the Gratitude Journal. This is the one peer-reviewed intervention that actually increases your subjective well being, and costs barely anything. And no one I know has even seriously tried it. Do literally none of these people care about their own happiness?""Huh. Do you keep a gratitude journal?""Lol. No, obviously."**- Some Guy at the Effective Altruism Summit of 2012Upon hearing the above, I decided to try gratitude journaling. It took me a couple years and a few approaches to get it working.First, I **tried keeping a straightforward journal, **but it felt effortful and dumb.I tried a thing where I **wrote a poem about the things I was grateful for, but my mind kept going into "constructing a poem" mode instead of "*experience nice things mindfully" *mode.I tried just being mindful without writing anything down. **But I’d just forget.I tried writing gratitude letters to people, but it only occasionally felt right to do so. (This came after someone actually wrote me a handwritten gratitude letter, which felt amazing, but it felt a bit forced when I tried it myself)I tried doing gratitude before I ate meals, but I ate "real" meals sort of inconsistently so it didn’t take. (Upon reflection, maybe I should have fixed the "not eat real meals" thing?)But then I stumbled upon something that worked. It’s a social habit, which I worry is a bit fragile. I do it together with my girlfriend each night, and on nights when one of us is traveling, I often forget.But this is the thing that worked. Each night, we share our Grumps and Grates. (We’re in a relationship and have cutesey-poo ways of talking to each other).Walking in Raemon’s shoes (this is me projecting), this process is most gratifying because allows ownership of the process and gratifies one’s innovanity. In general, Derive is a simple procedure:

Reverse

A sub-personality is like an entire human being, although one who is stunted in several directions and overgrown in others. In the analysis of my vanity I understood a particular corollary of this fact: vanity is also capable of empathy. We often think of empathy as sympathy for another person’s struggle and suffering. Reverse is the application of empathy to Vanity: to understand how other people might be proud about traits you disdain. Reverse has three steps:

Comment

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We explicitly advise CFAR workshop attendees to do a version of Derive; in the opening session we call it "Adjust Your Seat," and it’s mostly about techniques being idiosyncratic and people needing to do different versions of them as appropriate (Focusing for skeptics is a good example of this). CFAR’s gone through a lot of different metaphors for this. Beyond finding a better fit this has the possibility of just finding a better general version of the technique and then we can upgrade the class, which is cool. I often do a version of Derive while learning math, which looks like this: at some point, hear about a cool theorem, and maybe even learn a little bit about its proof, then partially or completely forget the proof and (optionally) partially forget the theorem, then try to rederive it, not knowing how much of the rederivation was just remembering. Even if it was nearly all remembering this has the effect that the theorem feels like it’s mine in a way it didn’t before and I’ll never forget it after that.

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So you’ve got a bad case of "Not Invented Here" syndrome, and this is your workaround? Cool.

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Thank you for yet another interesting post! There is something I find problematic about the Derive method. It seems to require lying convincingly to yourself which I think is a bad idea.

Find a striking piece of advice that you have an aversion to, because you are attached by vanity to your current identity.Wouldn’t this be labeled in my head as bad advice? If there is a part of myself that identifies it as good advice, and I realise that it is based on vanity, isn’t that enough to accept the advice? Modify it in a wacky and idiosyncratic way. This can be a useful upgrade, but it doesn’t have to be. Rebrand it to be catchy or personal.Ok, if I modify it enough maybe I can actually take pride in my reformulation (though I could argue that even this is partly deceitful). But if it ‘doesn’t have to be a useful upgrade’ then I have to rebrand it by lying to myself. As stated above I believe lying to yourself is a very bad idea. I would agree with Jordan Peterson that this would result in pathologising the thinking process. I understand that this is an attempt to hack the vanity mechanism for motivational purposes. I just think that the more traditional ways of overcoming pride such as 1) observing behavior with honesty, identifying instances of self-inflationary behavior or thought, and 2) practice humility, are better strategies as they are addressing the cause and not the symptom[1]. Thoughts?


  • [1] Notice how honesty/​sincerity and humility have to be developed together as the one does not work without the other. Apparent humility can actually be disguised vanity etc.*

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I think this is a very serious issue and part of the reason I wrote that Derive and Reverse is a short-term strategy. I consider the Derive method as a mental game of make-believe which allows you to recognize unproductive vanity at work. Originally I intended the exercise of rebranding primarily as a mechanism to notice self-inflationary behavior as you described, and secondarily as a mechanism to hack vanity for motivation. On reflection I think the second purpose is not worth the cost of serious self-deception. In this light, I would weaken Derive to something like this: when a perfectly good piece of advice like "keep a Gratitude journal" falls into your lap but you have an instinctive immunoreaction to it, one way to notice and dispel the part of that aversion that comes from vanity is to walk through Derive in your head and notice changes in your gut reaction to a trivial rebranding. It is important to be remain honest about the quality of your contribution—the point of the exercise is to notice pieces of your System 1 rejecting other people’s ideas. Does this help?