Costs and benefits of amniocentesis for normal pregnancies

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Disclaimer: No medical training. Amniocentesis is a sample of the amniotic fluid to test fetal DNA at 15-20 weeks of pregnancy. It involves inserting a long needle into the amniotic sack, which is potentially risky. But it could catch serious defects. Arguably the main cost of the procedure comes from an increased risk of miscarriage, which increases by about 1 in 1,000. The best-estimated risks (see this meta-analysis) may still be confounded by selection into the procedure, but experts agree the risk is non-zero. Depending on the person, you might also consider the stress entailed in the process, the feeling of not being done testing, and the cost of a false positive. What are the benefits? This is harder, because pregnancy involves a lot of correlated tests. For instance, Down syndrome can be detected in "cell free" DNA testing (also known as NIPT) at week 8. It’s also detected with much higher accuracy in the amnio. But a negative in the cell free DNA test will drastically reduce the chance that an amnio comes back positive for Down, so it certainly reduces the benefit of amnio—enough that current convention is to not recommend amnio after a negative NIPT result. There are also ultrasounds. These can detect issues that are also caught in genetic tests, like Down. But they can also detect issues that are not currently detectable in DNA. For instance, it’s estimated that roughly half of all cases of Noonan syndrome are novel, meaning a genetic test for them wouldn’t come back positive based on known mutations. So the amnio can help catch things that are (i) genetic and (ii) invisible to the ultrasound and other tests. To complicate things further, DNA testing of the amniotic fluid is currently performed at three levels of detail. From lowest to highest resolution:

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A couple of thoughts, having been through this.

  • Not all of the issues caught would have made it to birth, so it’s less than 1⁄270 live births—a bunch of chromosomal abnormalities end in miscarriage. It’s a little hard to say exactly how this affects the benefit of amnio. On the one hand, maybe you didn’t need to do anything for the cases that would miscarry anyway. On the other hand, there’s probably some value in knowing that this isn’t going to be a good outcome, and being able to choose a more defined outcome if you want.

  • It’s worth thinking a bit about what you would do if you found something. For instance, if you’re not going to abort if you find Down’s, then the value of finding goes down a lot. ~90% of people do abort in that situation so maybe that’s not the mainstream case, but that could cut down on 10% of the amnios done.

  • It’s a big-ass needle that they use for amnio. Possibly this will freak out some people more than others—i.e. the cost is higher if you don’t enjoy being stabbed by a giant syringe. I thought it was interesting to watch, but I wasn’t the one being stabbed, so YMMV.

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Really agree with all of these, thanks. Curious, in your decision-making process, did you ever have a way to calculate "the chance of a really disabling (as bad as Down syndrome) disorder"?

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I looked up some stats, but unfortunately this was ~15 years ago and I have no idea where I found them or what they are.

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/cHpQKvbjnuemSJEkp/costs-and-benefits-of-amniocentesis-for-normal-pregnancies?commentId=xeyibnx5ourveimvz

(Also not medically trained.)

Something missing from this analysis is that the expected probability of these conditions for any given pregnancy is not the same as the incidence in the population at large. The factor that I’ve most often heard about is increasing age being highly associated with increasing incidence of Down syndrome, though there may be others, and I’m not sure whether there are known correlates with the other conditions you mention.

That might also relate to the last point about incidence of these conditions in the wider population and the incidences that study reported. It could be that older pregnant people are more likely to opt for the test, knowing that they are at elevated probability.

You finish by suggesting people think about prevalence differences shifting by a factor of two, but from a quick Google, it looks like age can shift prevalences by orders of magnitude. The first table that popped up suggested 1 in 2000 at age 20, increasing to 1 in 100 at age 40 and 1in 10 at age 49.