I’m sure this idea exists somewhere else, but I haven’t found it yet. (Probably my fault, I’ve only been on here for a few weeks and I’m still working through the core sequences.)
The failure’s try is a seemingly earnest attempt to overcome a challenge, but the challenger lacks the fundamental belief that they can surmount the challenge, and accept the challenge inevitably as evidence to their failure. That is to say, you put in an honest effort without believing you can do it so you can turn around and say it was impossible all along.
I think this is a readily identifiable symptom of cognitive bias, of unevenness of evidence because one starts with the conclusion and works backwards. The belief "I’m a failure" or at least "this task is impossible (for me)" exists somewhere in System 1, and subtly gravitates behavior toward manifesting itself.
I am well aware that I do this, and I’m not sure how to correct it. Somewhere in my belief network rests this idea that I am insufficient, a node of impostor syndrome, and biased evaluation. I got a 96 on my Chinese final, something I certainly would not have been able to do when I first arrived in China, but my reaction is not "I’ve progressed so much, I’ve learned all this material and tested well." It’s… Well. Empty. Like I hadn’t done anything at all. Like I didn’t believe it happened. I’ve been working hard at learning this language for years, it’s very important to me, and yet when faced with seemingly undeniable evidence that I’ve made substantial progress, I don’t interpret success.
I think this node manifests in another area as well. I feel like I /must/ become useful in as many aspects as possible. After reflecting for a long while on this, I think it’s because I believe otherwise people won’t want anything to do with me. I fundamentally doubt the idea that my presence alone is something that can be enjoyed, I feel that I must constantly be raising my ability to help others before they could accept me.
So my question is, now that I am aware of the node, how do I unravel it? My understanding of counter-conditioning relies on specific, actionable behaviors. "Every time I want to eat ice cream I will think about my fitness goal, and instead work out, with enough time and careful planning, my desire for ice cream will be overpowered by my working out habit and I will (virtually) no longer struggle with my desire to eat ice cream." I’ve had success updating and adjusting other habits with this form, but I’m struggling to apply it to this problem. I fear it’s the nature of the problem itself. "Even my strongest counter-conditioning strategy is too weak to deal with how pathetic I am."
I’m hoping for some insight. Thank you!
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The question "is it true" is exactly what informs me when I say "I know this fear to be irrational". I’ve seen situations in which one person is little more than a burden on another, and is still accepted and even taken care of much like one would do with any given loved one regardless of their practical worth. The failure I’m pointing to is that I can completely understand that line of reason, but my intuitive belief seems to be unaffected by it. The update in information created by this test didn’t cascade down into my intuition, which I think is because my intuition is holding a piece (or set) of stronger beliefs that conflict with this anticipation. There is something arguing a "Yes, but..." where the ‘but’ is still more convincing than the ‘yes’.
I’m not sure I follow you on the idea of lines of retreat. It seems like it a ‘line of retreat’ is moving around an obstacle deemed to difficult rather than through it. It would be useful to accept the obstacle as insurmountable without rigorous testing if you need to move forward before you can complete the testing. But my issue is that if this obstacle is too long, then I’m constantly skirting a more optimal path. It’s like walking around a forest instead of through it because you don’t trust yourself how to survive in the forest. What I’m after right now is how to survive in the forest because I think it will be faster and better in the long term to learn this skill than to become really good at skirting the forest. I hadn’t heard Confidence All The Way Up as a name but I’m familiar with the concept, in some places I have this, and more often than not other people had called it a weakness. That I would too readily dismiss other people’s ideas as "not aligned with the evidence" because I was spending more time developing my own theory than I was about thinking about the implications of the statements of others. Part of me would think "So now I’m selfish because I don’t care about things that are easily disproven?" and part of me would think "Maybe I didn’t understand what they actually meant." The second part recently started winning (probably due to a deterioration of a key relationship and not necessarily based on evidence in the strictest sense) and so I’ve been purposefully suppressing Confidence All The Way Up and trying to be a better listener. But I think he has a point that this is a useful way to function, and I would do well to apply it here. I don’t think I’ve sunk into hopelessness, so much as I’ve gotten stuck.
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I missed this response because I hadn’t found the "someone has replied to your comment" indicator
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So in my context, the belief that is the limiting belief may be a line of reasoning in which believing that I am successful and others will accept me even if I’m not is actually a bad thing? I think there’s something to that. I think I’m afraid of complacency, but if I have success and acceptance, then am I really being complacent? This was helpful, thank you.
Good observations, and welcome! This is indeed *somewhat *covered later in the Sequences: Challenging the Difficult. There’s also a MtG author who famously wrote about self-sabotage, but I can’t quite remember the name.
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Stuck In The Middle With Bruce
Edit: Damn, Aiyen beat me to it.
Edit 2: But here’s a Less Wrong post/discussion about it.
It did indeed exist (more or less) before: http://mindingourway.com/stop-trying-to-try-and-try/ In fact this whole series (Replacing Guilt) might very well be exactly what you are looking for: http://mindingourway.com/guilt/ Very recommended.
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Seconding the recommendation here.
The MtG article is called Stuck in the Middle With Bruce by John Rizzo. Not sure how to link, but it’s http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/misc/2005_Stuck_In_The_Middle_With_Bruce.html The article is worth your time, but if you want a summary-there appears to be a part of many people’s minds that *wants to lose. *And often winning is as much a matter of overcoming this part of you (which the article terms Bruce) as it is overcoming the challenges in front of you.
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This is an interesting article. I wrote out some thoughts on it. I think Bruce is not the part of you that needs to lose, but rather the part of you that cares more about your place in society than your own goals. This is helpful to me, because if I take Bruce to be an agent keeping me in line with my beliefs about society, then if Bruce is keeping me down it’s because I believe I’m part of the losing class. I’m doing a good citizen’s duty of being walked on so that others may stand taller.