Growth mindset for better sex

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/gqoyBnmZmqbAfH6Xs/growth-mindset-for-better-sex

Cross-posted from my website. TLDR: Fixed mindset and fear of inadequacy hinder learning. Competence gives you confidence—where you’re competent and confident, you don’t have fear of inadequacy. And if you don’t learn fast because you’re afraid of feedback (because you’re afraid of inadequacy), you’ll not get better, leaving you relatively incompetent and afraid of inadequacy. 🗘 A thing about sex recently clicked from several sources:

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With the next couple of partners I have, I think I’ll ask if we could get some learning done. As in, play the Four Seasons, and tell each other if we’re off tune or in the wrong rhytm or need to tune the strings. And ask proactively, too.There is a chance your partner will *not *share your enthusiasm for explicit communication. There are people who refuse to communicate about sex at all. There are people who sometimes spontaneously provide useful feedback, but otherwise they either refuse to communicate, or their answer is "I don’t know". (This can actually still work well, if the rare feedback is good.) Maybe they need to experience something dozen times to make up their mind, dunno.

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Yep, some people won’t share that enthusiasm, and I guess that’s okay-ish. Would make long-term things harder than necessary though.

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/gqoyBnmZmqbAfH6Xs/growth-mindset-for-better-sex?commentId=59yeY4SDzaLcrgCLo

It seems like you go from "playing Vivaldi’s Four Seasons" as someone without much skill is a bad idea to "I will try to play Vivaldi’s Four Seasons and get some feedback from a listener to improve my skills at violine playing". This seems to be an ineffective way to go about learning to play violine. A violine teacher is a person who actually knows something about how people learn to play the violine and what happens to be important in that learning process. One way to aquire knowledge of what actually happens to be important is to read books: The Sex God Method by Daniel Rose and Slow Sex by Nicole Daedone are two very good books that both come from very different perspectives. Reading either of them will give you a better plan of how actually do your learning. Reading both is helpful to understand the different approaches and decide what of that you want to focus on.

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Yeah, you’re right—I’m equivocating between learning from "feedback from listener" and "feedback from master of the skill". Thanks for the links, I’ll put them on The List. (Hmm, now that I’m seeing them on Goodreads they seem to be about male-female-sex-for-male-readers, which lowers their value for me as I’m pan, but then, writing gender-general sex advice is probably harder than specific-combination advice...)

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I think that’s more true for the book of Daniel Rose book but not of Nicole Daedone. I think Slow Sex is general. Even for Daniel’s book the core concepts of Dominance, Emotion, Variety and Immersion are likely also applicable to other sex configurations. Take for example the principle of variety. Given what you wrote in the OP it sounds like you search for the one best way of doing things. That’s however a way of approaching sex that can reduce the variety and thus reduce the enjoyment. I would expect that principle to also be valuable in homosexual sex and see no reason why it would only be important for male-female-sex-for-male-readers.