From Personal to Prison Gangs: Enforcing Prosocial Behavior

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/sYt3ZCrBq2QAf3rak/from-personal-to-prison-gangs-enforcing-prosocial-behavior

Contents

Generalization

This is hardly unique to prisons. The pattern is universal among human institutions. In small groups, everybody knows everybody. Rules are informal, identity is individual. But as groups grow:

Society

At some point over the past couple hundred years, society underwent a transition similar to that of the California prison system. In 1800, people were mostly farmers, living in small towns. The local population was within an order of magnitude of Dunbar’s number, and generally small enough to rely on reputation for day-to-day dealings. Today, that is not the case [citation needed]. Just as in prisons and companies, we should expect this change to drive two kinds of transitions:

Takeaway

Of course, all of these examples share one critical positive feature: they scale. That’s the whole reason things changed in the first place—we needed systems which could scale up beyond personal relationships and reputation. This brings us to the takeaway: what should you do if you want to change these things? Perhaps you want a society with less credentialism, regulation, stereotyping, tribalism, etc. Maybe you like some of these things but not others. Regardless, surely there’s something somewhere on that list you’re less than happy about.The first takeaway is that these are not primarily political issues. The changes were driven by technology and economics, which created a broader social graph with fewer repeated interactions. Political action is unlikely to reverse any of these changes; the equilibrium has shifted, and any policy change would be fighting gravity. Even if employers were outlawed from making hiring decisions based on college degree, they’d find some work-around which amounted to the same thing. Even if the entire federal register disappeared overnight, de-facto industry regulatory bodies would pop up. And so forth. So if we want to e.g. reduce regulation, we should first focus on the underlying socioeconomic problem: fewer interactions. A world of Amazon and Walmart, where every consumer faces decisions between a million different products, is inevitably a world where consumers do not know producers very well. There’s just too many products and companies to keep track of the reputation of each. To reduce regulation, first focus on solving that problem, scalably. Think amazon reviews—it’s an imperfect system, but it’s far more flexible and efficient than formal regulation, and it scales. Now for the real problem: online reviews are literally the only example I could come up with where technology offers a way to scale-up reputation-based systems, and maybe someday roll back centralized control structures or group identities. How can we solve these sorts of problems more generally? Please comment if you have ideas.

Comment

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Over the years I’ve become increasingly more negative about bureaucracy and regulations, so I appreciate this essay that contextualizes such issues and attempts to explain how such social institutions evolve. That said, I only read the essay during the Nomination process, not in 2019, so I can’t say whether it will affect my thinking long-term.

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This post was fairly central in my thinking about how societies work. There’s a particular genre of LessWrong post which is "summarize a chapter of Legal Systems Different From Our Own", where I feel a little bad about giving most of the credit to the post author rather than David Friedman. If this made it through the review I think I’d want David Friedman somewhat involved?