[21:03:14]: Use gravel, silly. [21:03:30]: there is still an angry hoglin on the bridge above it. [21:03:36]: It won't have despawned? [21:03:37]: and we're about 30 blocks above the surface of the lava. [21:03:54]: Use... ladders? [21:03:58]: on what blocks? [21:04:04]: Build a spiral staircase around the gravel. [21:04:13]: we don't even have that much gravel. [21:04:18]: Mine sand from the beaches. [21:04:25]: i lost all of my tools. why don't you? [21:04:30]: Okay. [21:05:48]: there are still hoglins. [21:06:03]: Can we build lasers? [21:06:10]: no. [21:06:11]: I guess I can make an enchanting table. [21:06:50]: also, my estimate of 30 blocks was very inaccurate. [21:06:54]: it's more like 60. [21:07:12]: Okay. Well, drop one pillar of gravel (sand) staircase around it, and drop gravel (sand) into the lava. [21:07:14]: i've made a pillar of sand and gravel down to there. [21:07:30]: i'd have to go down there to see what i'm doing more accurately, which would mean breaking it. [21:07:36]: Oops, rogue enderman. [21:07:37]: and i'd have to have all the resources necessary before i go down there. [21:07:54]: sand progress? [21:07:58]: 96 attained. [21:09:12]: The sand is in the chest, you know. [21:10:10]: fine,. [21:14:16]: ...where's the grave? [21:14:22]: did it just not make one? [21:14:34]: What? Oh no. [21:16:01]: huh. well, those items are gone. [21:16:07]: Which ones? [21:16:17]: all of my tools, some resources, the drill. [21:16:26]: also the block scanner. [21:16:34]: Oh. Hmm. [21:16:52]: Are you sure it didn't just make the grave in a slightly different place? [21:16:56]: i did look around it. [21:17:05]: it certainly didn't displace it to any of the areas 1 block away. [21:17:08]: "A highly configurable, easy to use, and elegant Gravestones mod for Fabric MC. It even has an easy to use API for developers!" [21:17:20]: I'm reminded of the xkcd tornado warning app thing. [21:17:38]: I should field-test this. [21:17:44]: a surprising amount of gravestone mods can't handle the player dying in fluids properly. [21:18:16]: because who would ever die in lava, given that it's completely harmless, doesn't kill you, and doesn't occur in large pools anywhere. [21:18:42]: ...... [21:18:43]: so that answers that. [21:18:50]: Was this mod made by idiots? [21:18:52]: yes. [21:18:54]: Right. [21:19:09]: Okay, we're replacing that. [21:19:18]: does this gravestone at least give you your items back? [21:19:28]: you should probably mine it before we remove it. [21:19:29]: No. [21:19:37]: wow. [21:19:40]: this is a really bad mod. [21:19:43]: Yes. [21:20:25]: it's forceful enough to mine sugarcane, but not water. [21:21:26]: do you know what you're replacing it with? [21:21:37]: No. I'm going to test a few things to see whether they actually work/ [21:21:38]: . [2024-02-17 21:23:29.386828: 2024-02-17-3.log.gz] [2024-02-18 00:00:15.049635: 2024-02-17-4.log.gz] [21:32:58]: Is it ethical to cheat in replacements for the vanished items? [21:33:04]: of course not. [21:33:06]: I see. [21:33:12]: We should be at the mercy of arbitrary poorly programmed mods. [21:33:31]: it's not *that* bad. it's just some iron and wood and copper and manasteel and diamond. [21:33:40]: What about the rift thing you were moving? [21:33:46]: i can make another one. [21:33:59]: and the seeds of 329 critically endangered plants, and the block scanner. [21:34:06]: nothing we can't replace. [21:34:07]: I see. [21:34:15]: I'll get the plant gene synthesizer. [21:36:19]: BRB (less than 5 years, more than 1 second). [21:37:50]: back. [21:37:57]: Incredible. [21:38:04]: wow, graves "expire"? [21:38:08]: I turned that off. [21:38:15]: I did not turn it off very well. [21:38:31]: are you going to? [21:38:41]: Hold on. [21:39:43]: Okay, fixed. [21:39:48]: We need a restart to apply it obviously. [21:39:53]: okay. do so [21:39:53]: . [21:43:23]: i suppose you could say that that previous mod was a grave mistake. [21:46:26]: consume Radiating Ender. [21:46:34]: We should build everything out of these. [21:46:36]: Literally everything. [21:46:38]: we only have 5. [21:46:41]: it would be pretty hard. [21:46:45]: We should find a duping glitch. [21:46:49]: that's cheating. [21:46:54]: We should find a duping machine. [21:47:01]: that changes everything. sure. [21:47:20]: ugh, there should just be enough mana for me to infuse the items already. [21:47:43]: ... [21:47:47]: i just made another manasteel axe. [21:47:48]: oops. [21:47:51]: now i have 2. [21:47:52]: want one? [21:47:55]: Sure. [21:48:03]: Why did you damage it? [21:48:07]: to spite you. [21:48:14]: just own a mana tablet, or don't. [21:48:22]: I needed more mana for that. [21:48:29]: well, i just used all of it. [21:48:31]: so now you need even more. [21:48:34]: Yes. [21:48:54]: BRB (comparable amount of time). [21:53:21]: i return. [21:53:38]: I have a tiny but extant amount of mana. [21:53:58]: i, on the other hand, have a tiny but extant amount of mana. [21:54:09]: acausally. i haven't harvested any yet. [21:54:40]: that's mine. [21:55:05]: i think i deserve iron ingots. [21:55:20]: idea: sleep. [21:55:34]: or AFK in front of the mana pool, suir [21:55:35]: re. [21:55:37]: tsure*. [21:55:38]: tsure8. [21:55:39]: tsurtetus [21:55:43]: sure*. [21:57:03]: you should sleep still. [21:59:40]: do you have iron? [21:59:43]: No. [21:59:51]: Unironic. [22:07:30]: I'm going to cease to exist for approximately 50.0008 minutes. [23:01:43]: It has been claimed that gol ark. [23:01:49]: Do we have infinite blaze rods yet? [23:01:51]: no. [23:01:55]: !!! [23:01:55]: besides, we all know that go lark. [23:02:07]: i am rotating. [23:02:10]: What happened to the fortress rift project? [23:02:14]: i lost the rift. [23:02:21]: Did you not restart it? [23:02:26]: it needs iron. [23:02:30]: Ah. [23:02:35]: I would get iron, but that needs iron. [23:02:37]: i got 3 iron ingots. that is not enough. [23:02:41]: Oh, wait, we have PLATES stocked. [23:02:44]: Okay, fixing. [23:02:46]: i found a cave with lots of iron, but i can't silktouch them. [23:02:52]: I am working on it. [23:02:52]: maybe i should make that spectral silk touch pickaxe. [23:03:19]: I can build another steam mining drill. [23:03:27]: oh, good. do that. [23:03:38]: We're out of... cobblestone? [23:03:44]: yes, [23:03:45]: . [23:03:47]: we don't get any really. [23:03:50]: sion [23:03:51]: since t [23:03:53]: That was rhetorical. [23:03:54]: since we just silk touch the ground. [23:04:13]: idea: [23:04:19]: Cobble generator turtle? [23:04:26]: it didn't work. sad. [23:04:30]: i wanted to bring the biplane downstairs. [23:04:36]: I... see. [23:05:02]: wow. [23:05:04]: ohno. [23:05:11]: oh no*. [23:05:14]: this damages it a lot. [23:06:05]: Physics hacked and God controlled. [23:06:07]: I built the drill. [23:06:36]: i guess i'll have to remove our radiating ender. [23:06:42]: Why? [23:06:49]: your actions. [23:07:20]: can i have it? [23:07:30]: I was busy reading the 1.18 ore distribution map. [23:07:36]: i know it by heart approximately. [23:07:38]: you can just ask me. [23:07:40]: also, y = 0. [23:07:44]: I could also ask GPT-4. [23:07:49]: you could but it would lie. [23:07:54]: This is true. [23:11:06]: i forgot where the cave was. [23:11:10]: I see. [23:11:47]: i remembered. [23:12:59]: oh, cool, diamond ore. [23:13:12]: Exciting. We can use it to make diamonds. [23:16:21]: i've attained 39 iron ore. [23:16:24]: Cool. [23:17:25]: i'll harvest some coal. [23:17:29]: See that you do. [23:17:31]: and by coal i mean lignite coal. [23:17:38]: I'm having to make unironic charcoal. [23:17:48]: it's not like you can make fuel from iron. [23:17:53]: Maybe you can't. [23:18:01]: neither can you. [23:18:03]: Oh. [23:22:33]: try not doing that. [23:23:19]: hammer when? [23:23:23]: hammer where? [23:23:31]: It's a bit damaged. I can make another if I have iron. [23:23:37]: it broke. i used it to make iron. [23:24:37]: i landed my biplane on your coke oven. [23:24:59]: how many plates do we have? [23:25:12]: The compressor can make some. [23:26:42]: is ore quadrupling balanced? [23:26:52]: It's hemiquadrupling. [23:27:06]: but i'm turning one ore into four dust. [23:27:17]: Well, the book says hemiquadrupling. [23:27:29]: what if the book is wrong? [23:27:37]: what if this compressor compressed faster? [23:28:43]: wow, i broke the hammer i just made. i'm so good. [23:28:54]: We could make more bronze machines, in principle. [23:29:27]: did you make any of that lignite coal? [23:29:33]: No. I didn't have a hammer. [23:30:16]: idea: sleep. [23:30:52]: please sleep already. [23:30:57]: beee you. [23:36:00]: coal. [23:36:31]: observe: i am going to make the rune of MI. [23:36:33]: I see. [23:36:34]: not really. [23:36:36]: Where's your livingrock? [23:37:39]: okay, well, now that we have iron, i should try having a block scanner. [23:37:45]: and a rift to the fortress. [23:39:26]: I should make a sword. [23:39:35]: try not going AFK ever. [23:39:43]: I'm not AFK. I'm just tabbed out of the game. [23:39:54]: stop doing that and just play forever always then. [23:40:47]: I think I deserve to make myself nice manasteel equipment. [23:40:55]: After all, I've done so much valuable* work. [23:41:23]: i deserve wooden tools for all of the unvaluable unwork i've done. [23:42:13]: HTech™ returns to sender. GTech™ doesn't. [23:42:22]: GTech™ uses better postal services. [23:44:16]: okay, fortress portal made. [23:44:30]: Excellent. [23:46:33]: A correct one, I mean. [23:46:38]: Oops. [23:46:40]: Wrong window. [23:46:46]: now i Know. [23:46:47]: muhahaha. [23:47:01]: i'm getting infinite blaze rods. [23:52:19]: Why is there a rift here? [23:52:25]: i don't know. [23:53:04]: well, i spectrum forth. [23:53:24]: Are you making a bottle of fading? [23:53:29]: of course i am. [23:53:32]: Do you know what to do with it? [23:53:35]: I happen to have remembered this. [23:53:36]: no. i'm reading. [23:53:49]: i wonder if i need to put it somewhere. [23:53:50]: I believe you use it on leaves and it consumes them for some reason. [23:53:57]: how spoilery. [23:54:04]: can i mine this safely? [23:54:08]: nope. [23:54:09]: I forgot. Sorry. [23:54:18]: You might need silk touch? [23:54:28]: well, i don't have the resources to get more. [23:54:34]: Really? We have honey. [23:54:42]: do you have the ingredients for 4 more fermented spider eyes? [23:54:53]: I forgot what those are. Maybe. [23:54:58]: they involve spider eyes. [23:55:02]: We have several. [23:55:06]: i used all of ours up save for 1 making the first one. [23:55:07]: We do not have several. [2024-02-18 18:29:52.539803: 2024-02-18-1.log.gz] [00:00:15]: How do I mine flax correctly? [00:00:18]: just break it. [00:00:28]: muhahaha, i am making evil spectral equipment, etc. [00:00:29]: But now I just have 8 flax and can't make flax seeds. [00:00:35]: it drops flax seeds. [00:00:35]: Oh, I see. Don't break the top block. [00:00:45]: i've been breaking the top block and getting flax seeds back. [00:00:57]: oh dear, this spectrum recipe takes way too long. [00:01:16]: it is *still* ongoing. [00:01:37]: there. [00:01:45]: try hitting me. [00:01:52]: Wow. You have potions. [00:01:55]: absorption and resistance II. [00:01:56]: muhahaha. [00:02:12]: this has pretty terrible durability. [00:02:41]: i am near invincible while wearing it but it's not going to last very long. [00:03:51]: block scanner remade. [00:04:00]: Maybe I should make more manasteel armour. [00:04:12]: maybe you shouldn't. [00:09:10]: i have more iron than you. [00:09:34]: More people have been to Berlin than I have. [00:10:01]: more people have gotten iron than you. [00:13:28]: these iron hammers are so undurable. [00:13:38]: I'll go work on new bronze machines. [00:13:45]: Oh, lack of iron. [00:13:50]: no, i just put 60 away. [00:13:56]: in the compressor. [00:13:58]: i'm smelting more now. [00:14:05]: ... we don't need 60 iron plates. [00:14:09]: hammers, beeoid. [00:14:13]: they cost 20 each. [00:14:15]: Which I will REPLACE shortly. [00:14:18]: fine, do that. [00:14:18]: Well, not that shortly. [00:15:14]: I need to borrow the hammer. [00:15:20]: yes, don't we all? [00:15:22]: Yes. [00:15:26]: too bad there isn't one. [00:15:32]: do you see why i wanted to make plates now. [00:15:33]: Ah. [00:15:40]: I assumed you meant future hammers. [00:15:59]: here. [00:18:46]: I might macerate the concept of bees. [00:22:00]: when's the part where we summon Gaia? [00:22:13]: We need more mana for that. [00:22:23]: this endoflame setup is quite bad. [00:22:23]: See? [00:22:41]: i don't like using fuel, because we're constantly using fuel for at least 3 other things also. [00:23:08]: it's clear, thus, that we need cooler generating flora. [00:23:13]: i am going to go to the nether to get warts. [00:25:51]: attained. [00:26:05]: oh, so now it wants nether bricks. [00:26:11]: sure. sure it does. [00:26:53]: this macerator macerates iron ore into 3 raw iron? [00:26:58]: that's a worse yield than the forge hammer. [00:27:02]: No it's not. [00:27:12]: We can macerate the raw iron to 1.5 dust. [00:27:14]: oh. [00:27:22]: that's a slightly better yield then. [00:27:22]: ow. [00:27:55]: i've kind of had enough of endermen trying to murder me repeatedly. [00:28:05]: i might be forced to shut down the horrific tear in reality for a bit. [00:30:43]: i've obtained all of the 4* basic rifts. [00:30:51]: by rift i mean rune. [00:31:01]: You know, we can make a Botania flower to intercept enderman teleports. [00:31:11]: can we now. [00:31:15]: I mean, one exists. [00:31:31]: It's nontrivial to manufacture. [00:31:36]: Vinculotus I think. [00:31:51]: it's not in my lexica botania apparently. [00:34:11]: Well, REI shows it and it's not elven technology. [00:34:49]: it's pricy. [00:34:54]: Yes. [00:34:54]: it needs two of the tier three runes. [00:35:06]: I suppose we might as well shut down the holes in reality now we have enough ender pearls. [00:35:47]: i want to make a gourmaryllis. [00:35:51]: actually i don't. [00:35:57]: We would have to farm food. [00:36:00]: I guess we have CC. [00:36:06]: well, that's easy. but also a munchdew is what i want to make. [00:36:33]: we'd need a... cake. [00:36:43]: that requires milk, which needs cows. [00:38:45]: cake made. [00:41:46]: wait, making the rune of winter doesn't consume its 2 input runes? [00:43:02]: Nope. [00:43:13]: why not? [00:43:20]: Runes are not consumed in rune crafting. [00:43:27]: ?!?!?!. [00:43:33]: It's in the manual somewhere. [00:43:34]: are runes consumed in general? [00:43:37]: In crafting, yes. [00:43:43]: what about in flower flowing? [00:43:46]: Yes. [00:44:45]: in that case, runes are way easier to make than i thought. [00:45:53]: i'm sure we have* the mana supply for this. [00:46:05]: Evidently. [00:46:52]: HTech™ munchdew. [00:47:08]: wow, the radius is pretty big,. [00:47:09]: Does this have PIERB approval? [00:47:09]: . [00:47:20]: "mana" is real. "leaves" are not. [00:47:42]: oh wow. this is a way better source of mana than the endoflames. [00:47:42]: I wonder why I no longer have a lexica botanica. [00:47:50]: here. [00:47:54]: You had two? [00:47:57]: yes. [00:47:59]: How greedy. [00:48:07]: what? that's a different rune. i was making gluttony. [00:48:31]: BEE you, book. [00:48:45]: It won't tell me about these unless I build an endoflame. [00:48:54]: Joke's on it. I have the source code. [00:48:57]: you should just build an endoflame. [00:49:03]: I won't, due to spite. [00:49:06]: sure. [00:49:18]: well, we have infinte* mana now. [00:49:22]: * until the trees run out of leaves. [00:51:22]: idea: better spreader. [00:51:27]: Not available. [00:51:34]: no, i mean i'd just lens the mana into being... better? [00:51:39]: that's definitely how it works. [00:51:39]: Oh, right. [00:51:45]: or just make 2 spreaders./ [00:51:45]: We can do better with the existing hardware. [00:51:49]: i'm going to make 2 spreaders. [00:51:52]: Won't work. [00:51:55]: why not? [00:51:59]: Each flower binds to one. [00:52:03]: !??!?!??. [00:52:45]: Oh. The munchdew is too far away now. Whoops. [00:53:19]: Reducing the travel distance for the mana from the spreaders increases throughput. [00:53:34]: why? can it not launch multiple at once? [00:53:37]: Nope. [00:54:04]: This is in the manual. [00:54:50]: hmm. [00:54:56]: this block of manasteel is clearly made of 27 components, not 9. [00:54:59]: why does it split into 9 ingots? [00:55:11]: Reverse Banach-Tarski. [00:55:16]: seems suboptimal. [00:58:42]: You know, we need 500000 mana per terrasteel ingot. [00:58:52]: i don't know the numbers involved here. [00:58:58]: so i can just pretend we have 500000. [00:58:59]: A mana pool is 1 million. [00:59:02]: oh. [00:59:31]: well, good thing we don't need any right now. [01:02:38]: these "peppy trees" seem decent in the sense that they have many leaves. [01:04:29]: i can't fish in the mana pool? [01:04:30]: sad. [01:04:46]: No, although mana pools can process fish. [01:04:51]: (with an alchemy catalyst.) [01:06:27]: we have about half of half of what we need for a terrasteel ingot. [01:06:35]: and it only took several minutes of active effort. [01:06:36]: You mean "one quarter". [01:06:45]: that's a restatement of what i said. [01:06:56]: A better one. [01:07:01]: mine is subversive. [01:07:07]: And unhelpful. [01:07:16]: you clearly knew what i meant, so it's equally as helpful. [01:09:12]: oh no. [01:09:17]: the alchemy catalyst can break cobblestone into sand. [01:09:29]: and the clay flower can turn sand into clay. [01:10:44]: we can turn tuff into calcite? [01:10:48]: i guess spectrum is solved. [01:13:54]: terrasteel when? [01:14:04]: 2024. [01:14:09]: we don't have enough mana. [01:14:11]: i want more. [01:14:13]: how do we get more>? [01:14:23]: More generating flowers or run the existing ones at higher power. [01:14:51]: entropinnyum, i guess?! [01:14:57]: We can't automate TNT easily right now. [01:15:04]: we can do it manually. [01:15:10]: well, i guess we don't have infinite gunpowder. [01:15:17]: Huh. We don't have light gray. [01:17:24]: well, what now? [01:17:30]: Well, I'm waiting on some iron. [01:17:34]: it seems pretty hard to run any of these things better. [01:17:35]: I don't have anything to do afterward, but I *am* waiting on it. [01:17:39]: i guess i could look into Create tree farming? [01:17:47]: Reasonable. Or I could write a turtle program. [01:18:46]: okay, Create tree farming seems quite simple actually. [01:19:26]: i have a design idea, but i don't know how to extract from the inventories of contraptions. [01:19:29]: i should try knowing. [01:19:46]: I happened to see something for this while randomly browsing REI. [01:19:49]: Sadly, I forgot its name. [01:20:00]: Portable Storage Interface. [01:21:49]: i'll need to test some things. [01:21:54]: but first, do we have a way to get slime? [01:21:58]: I don't know. [01:22:08]: Yes. [01:22:16]: Dough and lime dye. [01:22:24]: dough needs some create infrastructure. [01:22:26]: maybe i should make it. [01:22:56]: Technically, we can also botanize cactus. [01:23:11]: it's probably good to make this infrastructure anyway. [01:23:16]: i'd appreciate an endless bread machine. [01:23:24]: I am just making it by hand periodically. [01:23:30]: yes, me too. [01:23:36]: which is why i'd appreciate an endless bread machine. [01:24:23]: Hmm. I am actually tired now. Bye. [01:24:32]: why be tired when you can not? [01:24:36]: Security reasons. [2024-02-19 17:33:20.712891: 2024-02-18-2.log.gz] [18:30:57]: Gollariomemes. [18:31:02]: hi. i'm calculating ratios. [18:31:07]: Aren't we all? [18:31:08]: (I am not.) [18:31:09]: no. [18:31:10]: you aren't. [18:31:11]: yes. [18:32:04]: so, 2 macerators to 3 more macerators to 6 furnaces? [18:32:28]: or, alternatively, 1 macerator to 2 macerators to 3 furnaces, at half speed. [18:32:38]: but the two macerators in the middle won't be running at full speed. [18:32:59]: thoughts? i didn't look much at how expensive MI machinery is. [18:33:10]: We can build more macerators, but it would be annoying. [18:33:14]: Mostly they just cost bronze. [18:33:19]: what does bronze cost? [18:33:23]: Copper and tin. [18:33:29]: I don't want to build that much out of nonelectric machines. [18:33:34]: can we only make it from copper and tin dust? [18:33:37]: Yes. [18:33:59]: so we can't just do it from copper and tin? do i have to make a seperate bronzing pipeline or something, or re-convert them into dust? [18:34:14]: fine, anyway, how far away is electricity? [18:34:18]: if it's far away i'm building the pipeline. [18:34:27]: It is specifically from bronze dust. [18:34:31]: Which is copper and tin. [18:35:37]: looks like a SBF is just a lot of clay (spiteful). [18:35:55]: I should acquire more clay. [18:36:07]: oh, i don't know if you noticed, but i literally Create. [18:36:14]: you'll be "millstone". [18:36:16]: I saw the grinding thing. [18:36:21]: It looks very advanced. [18:36:56]: what means does Botania have to break blocks? [18:37:04]: does it literally only have the block breaking lens thing? [18:37:08]: I don't know. [18:37:14]: what? i thought you literally botania. [18:37:28]: The lexica won't tell me anything because I have not technically made an endoflame and I don't recall another way. [18:37:44]: we have endoflame components, probably. [18:37:45]: go make. [18:37:49]: We lacked light gray petals. [18:37:59]: oh. fertilize some florals? [18:38:07]: Sounds annoying. [18:38:19]: when do we get the jaded amaranth or whatever? [18:38:26]: us. [18:38:39]: the lexica botania won't show me it. do i need to make the rune of spring or something? [18:38:42]: We could make it now I think. [18:38:48]: i guess i should probably just make one of every seasonal rune at some point anyway. [18:39:04]: We don't urgently need that many flowers so whatever. [18:39:10]: but we could have them. [18:39:29]: I suppose we could make the flower which eats flowers and some automation pipelines. [18:39:42]: you could make an endoflame. [18:40:18]: oh, wait, it does show me the jaded amaranthus now? [18:41:52]: i might be forced to own 3 more macerators. [18:42:00]: I'm acquiring clay. [18:42:20]: you know, steel macerators need bronze macerators anyway. [18:42:33]: so, we will need to make them at some point or another., [18:42:35]: . [18:42:39]: Why? [18:42:43]: We could just use electric macerators. [18:42:58]: those need circuits. [18:43:01]: circuits need 39482139483294823984923842 things. [18:43:10]: Yes, but in principle we could. [18:43:18]: you are HOLDING US BACK, but fine. [18:43:28]: I'm not saying don't build more. [18:43:35]: you're certainly implying it a lot. [18:43:47]: I mostly don't want to myself because it's slightly annoying. [18:44:07]: these chests are kind of awful. [18:44:12]: True. [18:44:27]: but AE2 stuff would need us to have power production probably. [18:44:35]: and i don't think those MI machines actually use "power" since they use steam. [18:44:42]: We only have vibration chambers or Ad Astra for that. [18:45:00]: We could run vibration chambers off a tree farm, technically. [18:45:24]: when you run AE2 standalone, are you *really* expected to run your entire ME network off of those? [18:45:37]: Presumably they're mostly there ironically, but we could. [18:45:46]: let's not, that sounds bad. [18:45:55]: I imagine we could install another tech mod. [18:45:57]: no. [18:46:00]: Botania has mana fluxfields. [18:46:11]: but botania is a magic mod. [18:46:14]: But it can produce RF. [18:46:22]: but the RF could be used to double ores. [18:46:24]: so that's not allowed. [18:46:33]: I don't think we have a mod with RF-powered ore doubling. [18:46:49]: multiplication by more than 2 is still in the general category. [18:46:56]: But MI power isn't RF. [18:47:05]: but it could probably come from RF, somehow. [18:47:23]: I don't think there's a very direct way. [18:47:52]: okay, so i think the radius of the munchdew is precisely 17x17x17 centered on it, going off of experiments. [18:48:03]: It's not. [18:48:03]: this information isn't helpful, i just thought i'd say so. [18:48:08]: why isn't it? [18:48:13]: According to documentation, it has separate vertical and horizontal "radii". [18:48:18]: ?!?!?!?!?!. [18:48:22]: They might have changed it. I will read the code. [18:48:43]: https://github.com/VazkiiMods/Botania/blob/a138014769376a909d3045da7f4583682d4e079b/Xplat/src/main/java/vazkii/botania/common/block/subtile/generating/SubTileMunchdew.java [18:48:45]: RANGE and RANGE_Y. [18:48:49]: i obviously can't click that link. [18:51:01]: I should begin SBF construction. [18:51:27]: We need coal (regular coal, not lignite), by the way. [18:51:34]: 100 or so I think. [18:51:52]: okay. what means do we have to turn coal ore into coal? [18:51:56]: can we do it efficiently? [18:52:03]: Yes, via MI. [18:52:06]: We can compress coal dust. [18:52:07]: jaded amaranth. [18:52:10]: us. [18:52:11]: Cool. [18:52:17]: We need a big area for it. [18:52:21]: Or, well, should have one. [18:52:32]: I am tempted to dig out an underground place but I think you'll complain. [18:52:35]: yes. [18:54:50]: I am sure building the extended machine floor over water will cause no problems. [18:56:33]: We should reorganize storage. [18:56:58]: Ores/generic rock/ingots/manufactured goods/misc organics/tools? [18:57:14]: sure, so long as it's reasonably easy to categorize anything into those. [18:58:21]: I'll make more chests. [18:59:28]: Can I at least have multiple floors if not underground ones? [18:59:33]: yes. [19:00:17]: okay. i made an amaranth area. [19:00:34]: how do we transport mana to it such that it gets exactly the amount of mana it needs without horrendously large buffers? [19:00:44]: The best available thing is a diluted mana pool I think. [19:01:02]: there's "mana loss" if we just shoot the mana over long distances, isn't there? [19:01:08]: Yes. [19:01:12]: how do we do this, then? [19:01:16]: you're botania™. [19:01:30]: Suffer the loss. Use lenses. Chain spreaders. Get sparks (we can't). Manually transport mana periodically by tablet. [19:01:56]: and we can't get sparks because... why? [19:02:00]: they look very craftable. [19:02:11]: We can't get the spark augments we'd need to USE them. [19:02:19]: ????. [19:02:33]: what's a spark augment and why do we need them? [19:02:37]: By default sparks basically just let you power agglomeration plates (and maybe runic altars, I forget). [19:02:47]: To move mana between pools you need augments. [19:04:32]: does the horn of the wild break *ungrown* crops? [19:04:39]: I never checked. [19:05:23]: only one* way to find out. [19:05:33]: okay, so that's all crops. [19:05:37]: not just grown ones. [19:05:39]: how inconvenient. [19:05:53]: I'm going to designate this new floor to bulk storage of random trash and the lower one to useful goods. [19:06:04]: is that really a good idea? [19:06:09]: Why wouldn't it be? [19:06:19]: well, often when returning from things, we have a mixture of random trash and useful goods. [19:06:28]: So you go to the top floor first. [19:06:39]: I would install an elevator, but I need more flax. [19:10:15]: i should have infinite sand. [19:10:17]: Yes. [19:10:52]: with 2 macerators and 2 furnaces we could be turning cobblestone into glass. [19:11:34]: and with a... mixer? we could automate cobblestone. [19:11:43]: We could just use a standard turtle cobblegen. [19:13:03]: i feel like we're going to need to access the contents of "misc organics" way too often for it to be in bulk storage. [19:13:08]: ender pearls and such, for instance. [19:13:21]: We can move frequently used stuff to "useful organics". [19:13:52]: Hmmm. Is it a good idea to use a "compacting chest"? [19:14:10]: it's possibly not not not not not not a good idea? [19:15:11]: It's not done yet. [19:15:18]: i know, i'm looking for things. [19:17:07]: well, HTech™ alchemy catalyst. [19:17:22]: GTech™ inventory reorganization™. [19:17:37]: HTech™ melon seeds. [19:18:17]: idea: sleep. [19:18:31]: Clearly, you work for phantoms. [19:20:40]: wouldn't it make more sense to put gems with "processed ore" too? [19:20:47]: It might. [19:20:52]: that would split it more evenly and also be more consistent with how it's actually used. [19:20:56]: Sure, change it. [19:21:39]: done. [19:22:18]: it would be nice if we could automate literally any mana source at all. [19:22:27]: how are you meant to do that in vanilla botania, i wonder? [19:22:36]: Extremely contrived contraptions. [19:23:27]: Do you think food and leather are "useful"? [19:23:30]: yes. [19:25:15]: i'm being so useful by jumping around randomly. [19:29:23]: where's my diluted mana pool? [19:29:29]: Oops.# [19:33:05]: i think the endoflame just picked up some item or another as fuel. [19:35:26]: okay, we now have passive-ish mana gain. [19:35:27]: very slowly. [19:35:42]: Until they decay, you mean. [19:35:50]: We could automatically build and place new ones. [19:35:53]: i said exactly what i mean, which is why i said "passive-ish". [19:36:23]: even if we don't automatically build new ones, i do still want to make new ones which we can't afford right now. [19:36:33]: idea: jaded amaranth enjadenment. [19:36:46]: Yes, exactly. [19:36:59]: With a Drum of the Wild and some kind of item collection machine we could have MANY flowers. [19:37:05]: Do we have some sort of Storage Drawers equivalent? [19:37:14]: i don't think so. [19:37:26]: Would you complain if I added one? [19:37:28]: i wish that filing cabinet mod existed for 1.20. it doesn't. [19:37:38]: i would complain only if it added worldgen. [19:37:42]: Okay. [19:38:33]: Also, the storage rework is done apart from my random chest of clay. [19:41:42]: this jaded amaranthus sure is jading. [19:42:06]: How ominous. This mod apparently gives you AE2 but not really. [19:42:14]: SSN? [19:42:24]: I DMed you it. [19:42:37]: okay, please wait. [19:43:01]: I am not necessarily adding it. [19:43:04]: I don't know if it's balanced. [19:43:28]: i need wool rapidly or else. [19:43:32]: I used it all. [19:43:40]: where are my shears? [19:43:43]: Tools. [19:45:21]: If you have no objections I'm adding Inventory Sorting and Extended Drawers for our next restart. [19:46:12]: You know, a Drum of the Wild could automate this. [19:46:16]: you know, i have one. [19:46:21]: I said DRUM. [19:46:26]: Not the horn. [19:46:47]: and what do you want from me, a "hopperhock"? [19:46:50]: Yes. [19:46:58]: Imagine the beauty of a drum of the wild feeding a hopperhock or whatever remote item collector we have into drawers feeding a CC turtle running a petal apothecary. [19:47:10]: It would all be very elegant or something. [19:47:21]: i wonder how you're meant to automate flower making in vanilla Botania. [19:47:28]: how would you batch in the correct amount of each petal? [19:47:51]: Accursed redstone mechanics? [19:48:11]: I mean, I could do it with a timer loop, separate chests for each thing, and some kind of one-item-at-a-time machine. [19:48:12]: you'd have to both be sure you have enough petals, and dispense n of each for some n. [19:48:20]: Droppers and comparators. [19:48:33]: comparators are very fuzzy and you'd still need to drop 2. [19:48:46]: Just drop one twice. [19:48:51]: if i unironically had to do this, i'd probably... use a comparator, rising edge detector and cursed drop-two-izer? [19:49:48]: oops. [19:53:01]: okay, in theory we have all petals forever now. [19:54:39]: do the hydroagneæ actually *consume* water blocks? [19:54:44]: I don't really know. [19:54:50]: huh, they do. [19:54:56]: okay, do they speed up with more water? [19:55:26]: okay, given that things, i assume not. [19:57:48]: i have to go now because thing. [19:57:49]: goodbye. [19:57:51]: Bye. [2024-02-20 19:16:16.862932: 2024-02-19-1.log.gz] [17:40:17]: heav_. [17:40:26]: I made one (1) hopperhock. [17:40:28]: hi. sorry i'm late, i had to restart minecraft twice. [17:40:43]: once because i forgot to download the new mods. another time because i forgot to actually add them after downloading them. [17:40:47]: I see. [17:40:54]: Well, regardless, I can begin the flower initiative. [17:40:59]: You will not, in general, be spared. [17:41:17]: sure, i guess. [17:41:21]: Do you have a drum of the wild? [17:41:26]: no, but i have a horn. [17:41:32]: I see. [17:43:40]: okay, i finally organized my inventory. [17:43:46]: i'm sure it'll take less than 3 seconds to fill again. [17:44:30]: drum made. [17:44:38]: how big is the radius on this? [17:44:40]: I forgot. [17:44:50]: It should work. I did this before. [17:44:59]: Put it centrally though. [17:45:08]: We'll need a pulse mana spreader. [17:45:11]: how is it activated? [17:45:11]: ah. [17:45:18]: i guess i'll go make one. [17:45:38]: I forgot whether the pulse continues to travel through the drum or not. [17:45:47]: If it does, I can set up another spreader to feed it back to save mana. [17:46:48]: PMS made. [17:47:28]: should i make a "hovering hourglass" too? [17:47:35]: Okay, it's absorbed. I'll make a messenger lens. [17:47:39]: I will control it off CC I think. [17:47:43]: why? [17:47:51]: This is going to automatically make hydroangeas. [17:47:52]: we don't need anything more complicated than a regularish timer. [17:48:03]: why control the pulse mana spreader with CC? [17:48:10]: I only want it to run when we lack something. [17:48:18]: We will spite Vazkii by producing infinitely many hydroangeas. [17:48:19]: i see. [17:49:04]: and then i suppose we'll use the "automatically place blocks on other blocks" thing to place hydroangeas in a bit hydroangeæic tower. [17:49:06]: big*. [17:49:09]: Exactly. [17:49:26]: should i get to work on a big hydroangeæic tower? [17:49:35]: I don't know how the blockplacey thing works so check that. [17:49:40]: i feel like i've used it before. [17:50:20]: right, the "rannuncarpus". [17:50:43]: We do need to somehow stop it from placing hydroangeas on every available surface. [17:50:53]: yes, you just specify it with item frames. [17:50:59]: we'll have it place on coarse dirt or something. [17:51:05]: Oh yes, I forgot about coarse dirt. [17:51:19]: Oh, I forgot a drawer. [17:51:40]: it seems like the jaded amaranthus is more efficient the less flowers there are. [17:51:46]: so we should be harvesting quite regularly. [17:51:46]: I think that is true. [17:52:36]: i'll start making tower equipment i guess. [17:52:46]: I don't think there's much to it but coarse dirt and cobblestone. [17:52:55]: And water. [17:53:08]: i was going to use managlass, and also there's the mana spreader, mana pool, the thing that binds flowers automatically and the block placing flower. [17:53:11]: and the item frames. [17:53:29]: Oh, good point. I don't know how to autobind them. [17:53:32]: well, i do. [17:53:35]: but i need to make stuff. [17:53:45]: Do they not just bind to the nearest spreader? [17:53:49]: i don't think so? you could check. [17:53:56]: there is a way to bind them all though. [17:53:59]: They usually do when it's nearby and I place them myself. [17:54:05]: Right, the obedience stick. [17:54:07]: I remember now. [17:54:16]: i could do a small scale test once i make a thing. [17:54:36]: We will have to manually supply seeds, I realize now, but we have so many that it's probably fine. [17:54:54]: we only need one singular seed per hydroangeas. [17:55:01]: Yes. [17:56:26]: Vazkii will be so spited once we build this. [17:56:34]: spitten*. [17:56:34]: There is nothing less Botania than passive mana generation. [17:56:49]: i mean, this is kind of active. it costs petals. [17:56:52]: It will be SO PASSIVE once I build the entire turtular assemblage. [17:57:04]: Also, two hydroangeas decayed. [17:57:10]: and we are cheating a bit by using several mods that aren't botania. [17:57:30]: I was hardly going to build redstone timer logic. [17:57:41]: for instance, autofilling the petal apocethary, voiding the excess petals and batching them correctly would be kind of a big task otherwise. [17:57:54]: Not really? [17:57:58]: apothecary*. [17:58:03]: I could do it with a big clock circuit, a lot of comparators and a dispenser or two. [17:58:17]: i'm very interested to know how you plan to auto-refill with ""a dispenser or two"". [17:58:29]: Dispensers can automatically fill buckets. [17:58:31]: yes. and? [17:58:53]: you need to get the buckets to a dispenser facing in front of the apothecary also. [17:59:00]: ... dispense into water, then extract the filled buckets? [17:59:02]: and then extract the bucket again back to the original one. [17:59:08]: I think you can build item filters in vanilla/Botania. [17:59:16]: Maybe only for stackable items. [17:59:17]: okay, but do you realise how logistically hard that is? [17:59:24]: No. [17:59:29]: well, skill issue. [17:59:41]: good luck doing this with "comparators and a dispenser or two". [17:59:49]: You cannot stop progress. [17:59:59]: i could if we were playing my botania-only-mostly pack. [18:00:10]: which just has REI, the graves mod, xæro's minimap and botania. [18:00:14]: Go consume lignite coal. [18:00:28]: i'm consuming perfectly regular charcoal right now to spite you. [18:00:47]: I should check the numbers on hydroangeas. [18:01:04]: that's cheating. just look at the "numerical mana" page in the lexica botania. [18:01:27]: It's not cheating to read documentation. This is just automatically consistent documentation. [18:02:08]: Wait, how do we remove the dead bushes? [18:02:14]: Pistons on the blocks they're on? [18:02:22]: how will you detect their death? [18:02:39]: We could just disassemble the entire system on a timer. [18:02:50]: i guess you could iff hopperhocks could reach it all. [18:02:55]: ... if hydroangeas drop themselves when destroyed, can we not blatantly cheat this way? [18:03:02]: they have durability. [18:03:05]: Ah. [18:03:41]: The pistons are annoying. [18:03:49]: Is there anything the flower can survive on which a dead bush can't? [18:03:54]: no. [18:03:58]: and i don't think it's a dead bush. [18:04:03]: It says DEAD_BUSH right here. [18:04:07]: ah, it is. [18:04:11]: well then. [18:04:20]: pistons work. [18:04:34]: and botania conveniently provides long timers. [18:04:34]: To eliminate the bushes, selectively? [18:04:40]: no, to do it nonselectively. [18:05:01]: I think I want to prototype this in creative. [18:05:15]: i don't, it seems relatively straightforward? [18:05:24]: I don't know the exact behaviour of pistons wrt things. [18:05:32]: "wrt things"? [18:05:35]: they just destroy them. [18:05:40]: Hm. [18:05:43]: as pistons do for all nonsolids mostly. [18:05:46]: except for rails. [18:05:54]: actually, they might for rails. i forgot. [18:05:54]: Anyway, it looks like we get 40 mana per 3 ticks. [18:06:22]: ... a million mana per hour? That can't be right. [18:07:07]: they only last an hour. [18:07:34]: Yes, but they don't seem like they make that much. [18:07:39]: I must be misinterpreting this. [18:07:40]: why not? [18:07:49]: that sounds right to me. if 5000000 mana is half of a mana pool, anyway. [18:08:07]: I don't think we have made anywhere near that much mana, and we burned out two hydroangeas. [18:08:15]: i've been using it up a lot. [18:08:20]: THAT much? [18:08:21]: my mana tablet arguably has about that much mana in it. [18:08:30]: It is only half a pool I think. [18:08:36]: 1000000 is about 1/10th of a pool. [18:08:51]: No it's not. [18:09:00]: We should probably just use exponential notation. [18:09:02]: this seems inconsistent with earlier statements by you. [18:09:03]: A pool is 1e6. [18:09:18]: a hydroangeas makes an entire pool over its lifetime? that's definitely not true. [18:09:18]: A hydroangea seems to produce very slightly less than 1e6/hour. [18:09:26]: Thus, my calculations are wrong. [18:09:49]: But I can't see where they're wrong and it bothers me. [18:10:12]: I should probably actually make the turtle. [18:12:34]: where's our stonecutter? [18:12:37]: ah. [18:13:05]: The potatOS AI is insulting me. Excellent. [18:13:49]: Oh. I assumed you would build on top of the existing hydroangeas machine. [18:14:08]: oh. well, i wanted to build it further away since it's a big structure that also needs a lot of supporting machinery. [18:14:23]: Well, I would shove it into a random basement, as it should only need one flower and some pistons. [18:14:33]: And redstone integrators or possibly wires of some sort. [18:14:39]: and a hopperhock, mana spreader, and a lot of redstone wiring. [18:14:44]: and pistons. [18:14:51]: I mentioned the pistons and wires. [18:14:57]: The spreader and hopperhock aren't big. [18:15:09]: also, i want to leave room in case anything doesn't work. [18:15:15]: I would just contrive horrific workarounds. [18:15:20]: This is why GTech™ will win. [18:15:29]: i don't follow the GTech™ design philosophy. [18:19:25]: Oh BEEEEE oh cryoapioform. [18:19:33]: It doesn't recognize these as inventories. [18:19:54]: Okay, fallback option. [18:20:00]: 16 chests? [18:20:04]: 2 chests, and let the other items despawn? [18:20:10]: 3 chests? [18:20:12]: One chest and have the turtle drop excesses. [18:20:27]: we should probably at least make a dedicated chest for each petal type. [18:20:33]: Why? [18:20:34]: having petals is good and cool. [18:20:40]: I'll just keep some flowers stocked. [18:24:26]: can we not actually afford 24 pistons? sad. [18:24:31]: well, i'll get 12 and make one half. [18:24:40]: where's all of our redstone? [18:27:26]: Oh no. my FPS has dropped precipitously. [18:27:33]: mine's fine. [18:27:59]: HTech™ memetic influence. [18:28:25]: Oh, I see. [18:28:33]: My CPU is maxed out running rust-analyzer because I opened a VSCode window. [18:28:45]: Some of the cores are at 95 degress and throttling horribly. [18:29:41]: Ugh. Automatic Trash Cans require steel. [18:29:48]: Devising alternative... [18:30:57]: GTech™ engineering. [18:31:43]: Hmm. I don't know how it will know when the hydroangeas need replacing. [18:31:56]: we are just going to repeatedly destroy and re-place them. [18:31:58]: or that was my plan anyway. [18:32:05]: i don't know how else you wanted to do it. [18:32:11]: I mean that the system needs to know when it needs to make new hydroangeas. [18:32:20]: just keep a small buffer stocked. [18:32:48]: But we place them by dumping them on the flower. [18:32:51]: once in a while, drop all of that buffer and then pick it up again a few seconds later. [18:32:59]: Hmmm. Reasonable. [18:33:16]: I would need another turtle I think. [18:35:08]: gaze upon HTech™ redstone engineering. [18:35:48]: also, please sleep. [18:36:12]: just ignore them and go to sleep. [18:36:35]: Ow. [18:36:44]: Sorry, I'm eternally hyperdistracted. [18:36:48]: ææææ. [18:36:51]: why did you put lava here? [18:36:58]: Trash can. [18:36:59]: we have flammable things. [18:37:06]: I forgot. [18:37:13]: use a cactus or something please. [18:37:26]: I could just use stone walls. [18:37:39]: is the open crate not flammable? [18:37:43]: I don't think so. [18:38:46]: give me that. [18:39:23]: HTech™ engineering. [18:45:22]: What will we do with the noncyan flowers? [18:45:28]: I could make endoflames for no reason. [18:45:35]: Nonblue/cyan, even. [18:45:38]: if only i had brought this subject up earlier. [18:45:43]: If only. [18:45:46]: i did and you dismissed it. [18:46:24]: i really like how i can't tell where my grave is at all. [18:46:46]: ah, there. [18:46:53]: Do you want me to turn the grave compass feature on? [18:46:57]: you turned it off? [18:46:58]: why?! [18:47:04]: I thought the minimap made it redundant. [18:47:15]: waypoints totally don't disappear when you go near them or anything. [18:47:25]: Fiiine. [18:48:51]: okay, timer thing made. [18:49:13]: I was going to have CC control that but sure. [18:49:22]: that seems pointless. [18:49:26]: the task just requires a timer. [18:49:28]: i have a timer. [18:49:36]: But we already have the computer. [18:49:41]: the timer is one single block. [18:49:45]: the computer would need at least several. [18:49:53]: It would need one redstone integrator and some cables. [18:49:59]: i would rather minimize the amount of things we do with CC for elegance reasons. [18:50:07]: I like maximizing it for elegance reasons. [18:50:24]: CC is bulky and cursed. [18:50:30]: CC is elegant and programmable. [18:50:38]: it's elegant until you consider unloading. [18:50:43]: I won't. [18:50:51]: ?!. [18:50:57]: then your thing will break constantly. that is *not* elegant. [18:51:15]: I will just make it reset its state to default on boot. [18:51:19]: sure. [18:53:44]: You cannot stop progress. [18:53:52]: yes i can. i won't, but i very easily could. [18:54:01]: By progress, I mean me writing this control systems code. [18:54:13]: i could probably at least make it mildly more annoying. [18:54:24]: I can write the code with just my IDE, which you don't control. [18:54:34]: right, but i could distract you by griefing the world horribly or something. [18:54:41]: I would have to ignore you, by policy. [19:00:27]: where's our glowstone? [19:00:32]: i definitely got some at some point. [19:00:32]: Did we have any? [19:00:33]: did you use it? [19:00:38]: No. [19:05:17]: do hopperhocks just output to adjacent inventories? [19:05:46]: also, do you have all of the livingwood? [19:05:52]: No. [19:05:55]: i see. [19:06:55]: can you sleep? [19:08:47]: do hopperhocks need mana? [19:08:50]: I assume so. [19:08:58]: can flowers accept mana pools below them? [19:09:01]: Also, the open crate drops downwards. [19:09:04]: i know. [19:09:06]: The range is quite long. [19:09:08]: see the block below it? [19:09:13]: How antimemetic. [19:09:35]: also, i didn't know flowers accepted mana pools over a long range. weird. [19:09:40]: i assumed it was just adjacency. [19:12:06]: Did we use up all our redstone? [19:12:10]: yes./ [19:12:12]: Oh. [19:12:38]: i'm going to test if the autoplanting system works. [19:12:53]: hmm. [19:13:02]: well, this is something. i might be forced to use podzol. [19:13:02]: Maybe it will only accept stuff dropped on top of it. [19:13:07]: let me check the documentation. [19:13:13]: It works here. [19:13:14]: can you give that back? [19:13:45]: it says "nearby". [19:13:56]: Try manually putting some on top. [19:14:07]: Hm. [19:14:11]: i'm pretty sure it's just a delay issue. [19:14:16]: botania has a thing for this. i'm going to make it. [19:14:40]: you can't... defloat... a flower? [19:14:40]: okay. [19:16:35]: Well, I need one redstone to finish this. [19:16:41]: Unless I repurpose the potatOS test rig. [19:16:44]: go mine. [19:16:47]: ?!?!?? [19:17:06]: why is the hopperhock not hocking hopper? [19:17:10]: does it really unironically need mana? [19:18:14]: sleep please. [19:21:50]: HTech™ already got redstone, of course. [19:21:53]: due to being optimal. [19:21:57]: I see. [19:23:34]: please come sleep. [19:23:42]: It'll take me a while to ascend. [19:23:48]: you could just disconnect if you want to not [19:23:50]: . [19:25:39]: ???????. [19:25:41]: why is this happening? [19:25:46]: What? [19:25:55]: oh, is it for really inane silly reasons? ugh.