[21:11:49]: [D] steamport: lol
[21:12:00]: [D] steamport: yeah you should prolly upgrade
[21:12:16]: Lignum: how do i overclock my furnace
[21:12:18]: [D] steamport: cuz VR needs to run at 90 fps
[21:13:52]: Lignum: how do i overclock my reeds
[21:14:23]: 3d6: wat is hheerslag
[21:16:02]: [D] steamport: 45m left downloading Battlefront II
[21:16:08]: [D] steamport: 62gb/84gb
[21:16:12]: Lignum: ok
[21:16:45]: [D] steamport: btw that's why i keep disconnecting/reconnecting
[21:16:58]: Lignum: ok
[21:18:15]: 3d6: well what kind of card should i get
[21:18:23]: Lignum: most expensive one you can find
[21:18:32]: 3d6: is that a serious recommendation
[21:18:35]: Lignum: no
[21:18:37]: Lignum: but that would work
[21:18:54]: 3d6: i dont want to spend lots of money if i dont have to
[21:24:23]: *Allymonies has gone AFK.
[21:25:29]: - 47th__Chromosome left the game
[21:26:03]: [D] 47th Chromosome: your bot seems a bit broken
[21:26:09]: *Allymonies is no longer AFK.
[21:26:11]: [D] 47th Chromosome: I dc'd yet it shows I rejoined
[21:26:28]: Lignum: crikey
[21:26:45]: [D] 47th Chromosome: OK ZOOMER
[21:26:56]: [D] 47th Chromosome: don't you ok boomer me or I'm gonna say the n word
[21:27:02]: 3d6: gtx 770 is not a good card huh
[21:27:08]: Lignum: its pretty okay
[21:27:18]: 3d6: im getting 100 fps here
[21:27:27]: Allymonies: well mc is mostly cpu bound anyway
[21:27:34]: 3d6: is my cpu any good
[21:28:18]: 3d6: it says xeon X5650
[21:30:25]: Allymonies: i dont know enough about hardware to say but i'll post a link where someone seems to have good luck with it for vr
[21:30:32]: [D] Alyssa: https://www.reddit.com/r/lowspecgamer/comments/9e2u2h/can_a_xeon_x5650_run_low_resolution_vr_games/e9pkwzy/
[21:30:55]: You are no longer AFK.
[21:30:56]: gollark: Baq.
[21:31:00]: Allymonies: wb
[21:31:06]: gollark: Xenon X5650? That iS ANCIENT.
[21:36:18]: *Allymonies has gone AFK.
[21:36:33]: You are now AFK (Away From Keyboard).
[21:37:05]: Allymonies: huh apparently pastebin doesn't like 91KB files, thats annoying
[21:37:06]: *Allymonies is no longer AFK.
[21:37:30]: Allymonies: max paste size should be 500kb even for free users..
[21:47:03]: You are no longer AFK.
[21:47:09]: gollark: I should try and make potatOS bigger to spite them.
[21:47:18]: Allymonies: indeed
[21:47:27]: gollark: It's already ~300KB spread across many, many files.
[21:47:40]: Allymonies: haha wow
[21:47:42]: gollark: PotatOS Tetrahedron is smaller, because it's missing most of the iconic potatOS features so far due to being highly indev.
[21:47:51]: Allymonies: aw
[21:47:56]: Allymonies: you can make it bigger >:)
[21:48:15]: Allymonies: Mine's not even programs it's just a lua array of the CC font represented by rectangles
[21:48:19]: gollark: PotatOS already contains a few kilobytes of just digits of the constant tau.
[21:48:26]: gollark: For the interactive tau viewer, you understand.
[21:48:28]: Allymonies: oh you don't calculate it on the fly?
[21:48:30]: gollark: I could probably expand that component.
[21:48:39]: gollark: No, I heard somewhere it was more efficient to cache it.
[21:49:04]: Allymonies: yeah I'm sure it would be
[21:49:12]: Allymonies: but now i know there's a limit to the viewer :(
[21:49:25]: gollark: I suppose I could make it download more digits if it hits the limit somehow.
[21:49:39]: gollark: Not sure where from. I could pull from the tauday website, they go up to 100000 precalculated digits.
[21:49:52]: Allymonies: that /should/ be enough
[21:50:04]: gollark: Never underestimate potatOS users.
[21:50:07]: Lignum: you could probably find an algorithm that produces the nth digit of pi
[21:50:28]: gollark: Yes, I know of the existence of... one?
[21:50:36]: gollark: Base 16, mind you, but I bet there's a base 10 one.
[21:50:47]: gollark: But I don't think that would work for tau, given that they're... different numbers...
[21:51:35]: gollark: The tauday thing only seems to provide the digits as HTML, but I guess I could just extract them from the browser console and stick them into a pastebin to use in "extended tau mode".
[21:52:22]: Allymonies: tau DLC
[21:52:32]: gollark: Hmm, premium potatOS features.
[21:52:38]: gollark: You know, I don't think anyone else suggested that.
[21:53:00]: Allymonies: gotta make it profitable somehow!
[21:53:17]: gollark: Well, I like writing it, except when I'm fixing some deeply embedded bug, in which case I hate it.
[21:53:39]: gollark: You know there's one sandbox escape bug with a PoC demonstrated, and I can think of something like two others which I haven't tested?
[21:56:37]: gollark: There are really several ways I can go to fix that first one. Embed yet more hacky patches on top of the whole potatoedifice to patch over that specific issue, implement more isolation between the sandbox and priviliged code, or implement a somewhat genera
[21:56:37]: 3d6: 3d6
[21:56:40]: gollark: l but still hacky solution.
[21:56:52]: gollark: That actually applies to the other two exploits I thought of.
[21:56:55]: gollark: (as well)
[21:57:08]: Allymonies: sounds like more isolation would be the way to go?
[21:57:15]: gollark: Perhaps, perhaps.
[21:57:26]: gollark: The isolation is generally annoying to implement, though.
[21:57:53]: gollark: In the first case, the issue is that the sandbox and priviliged code share an instance of my process manager, and the user code can spoof events to priviliged code, which means it can meddle with the remote debugging system.
[21:58:11]: gollark: I can't really fix that without a lot of internal tweaks, since the user/sandbox code bit relies heavily on process manager capability, often early in boot.
[21:58:49]: Allymonies: unless you separate out events so that triggered events dont escape the sandbox
[21:59:27]: gollark: I actually did already have to do that to patch an earlier sandbox escape.
[21:59:50]: gollark: queueEvent is... mostly dealt with; the issue is direct meddling with the coroutine.
[21:59:57]: [D] Wojbie: Honestly that sounds like it would require proper rework and isolation.
[22:00:04]: gollark: Which is VERY HARD!
[22:00:37]: [D] Wojbie: Like overwrite ALL functions with secured ones.. which would take quite time and effort and would still be prone to leave some holes.
[22:00:55]: gollark: In the second, it's that you could spoof HTTP events to the updater, in three ways - the direct coroutine meddling, queueEvent (mostly dealt with), and pulling external HTTP events and meddling with the (stateful, IIRC) streams they provide.
[22:01:05]: [D] Wojbie: Then secure code itself by dumping it into bytecode and running that so the server owner can't easly edit it.
[22:01:18]: gollark: I could do other things on that front.
[22:01:33]: [D] Wojbie: i say easly.. this kind of defence would work on terra but not on say Lemmy
[22:01:43]: gollark: Code signing, encryption (it doesn't and can't really be secure against much meddling, but would deter casual fiddling), probably compression...
[22:01:47]: [D] Wojbie: Sascha if they really tried could work around it too.
[22:02:04]: [D] Wojbie: Yea issue is you don'
[22:02:08]: gollark: I have a solution to basically completely taking away server owners' control, but it would be problematic and annoying.
[22:02:17]: [D] Wojbie: t have access to hardware of system.
[22:02:35]: gollark: And there's no real need to implement it, sort of thing.
[22:03:08]: gollark: Basically, run loads of virtual CCEmuX/CraftOS-PC instances in the CLOUD(tm) (by which I mean my server), and make potatOS effectively a fancy client for them which allows access to local peripherals and whatnot.
[22:03:23]: [D] Wojbie: I had a fun program that basically delegated CC computer to role of dumb terminal for interacting with shell on vps but that was buggy as hell/ didnt interprete all shell stuff correctly.
[22:03:32]: Lignum: thats pretty much what lem wanted to do for reichos
[22:03:35]: 3d6: both are interesting ideas
[22:03:43]: Lignum: so that the computers wouldnt actually run on the server and reduce load
[22:04:44]: gollark: It would probably not decrease load much except in weird cases, and probably actually increase it for general use, but eh.
[22:05:06]: *Allymonies has gone AFK.
[22:05:15]: *Allymonies is no longer AFK.
[22:05:26]: gollark: For heavy computing tasks (why are you doing those in CC?) it would help, but a lot of CC programs just do a little computing and a lot of IO, for which encoding/decoding overhead would outweigh the gains of moving the small bit of computing elsewhere.
[22:05:35]: 3d6: i just remembered that luaide is in the bios
[22:05:44]: 3d6: the rom i mean
[22:05:52]: Lignum: yea and also mbs i believe
[22:06:03]: 3d6: should we make mbs default
[22:06:06]: Lignum: no
[22:06:14]: gollark: Why is it not default? Is there some downside?
[22:06:21]: Lignum: squid said something but i forgot
[22:06:29]: 3d6: i dont think there is any compatibility issues
[22:06:51]: Lignum: wait no squid said something about merging mbs into cc:t
[22:07:03]: 3d6: as in thats a good idea or a bad idea
[22:07:06]: Lignum: a bad idea
[22:07:17]: 3d6: wonder why
[22:09:57]: You are now AFK (Away From Keyboard).
[22:11:12]: You are no longer AFK.
[22:15:37]: + steamport joined the game
[22:15:50]: steamport: life pro tip: never enable Windows HD Color
[22:15:52]: steamport: it ruins everything
[22:16:10]: You are now AFK (Away From Keyboard).
[22:16:13]: steamport: only time it should ever be enabled is if you're watching a bluray on your PC or something
[22:17:30]: - steamport left the game
[22:23:21]: You are no longer AFK.
[22:24:50]: *Allymonies has gone AFK.
[22:25:21]: You are now AFK (Away From Keyboard).
[22:26:05]: *Allymonies is no longer AFK.
[22:29:09]: *Ale32bit is no longer AFK.
[22:29:41]: You are no longer AFK.
[22:30:56]: Ale32bit: there's something really wrong with this 2x2 water source
[22:31:00]: Lignum: which one
[22:31:14]: Lignum: oh thats cursed
[22:31:22]: Ale32bit: this is illegal
[22:31:38]: Lignum: spong
[22:31:41]: You are now AFK (Away From Keyboard).
[22:32:15]: Ale32bit: ok fixed
[22:32:22]: Ale32bit: it's no longer cursed
[22:35:21]: You are no longer AFK.
[22:37:21]: You are now AFK (Away From Keyboard).
[22:38:48]: You are no longer AFK.
[22:40:58]: You are now AFK (Away From Keyboard).
[22:41:25]: *Allymonies has gone AFK.
[22:45:00]: You are no longer AFK.
[22:46:17]: Ale32bit: 4961, -1159
[22:47:06]: You are now AFK (Away From Keyboard).
[22:47:23]: You are no longer AFK.
[22:47:49]: *Allymonies is no longer AFK.
[22:51:03]: Ale32bit: omg
[22:52:16]: 3d6: if you shoot a firework through a dispenser but there is a slab on top does it just go through
[22:52:29]: Lignum: i believe so
[22:53:36]: Ale32bit: anavrins rick rolled me
[22:53:46]: Ale32bit: @Anavrins heck you
[22:54:20]: [D] byte-chan?: @Anavrins why did you do that
[22:55:27]: You are now AFK (Away From Keyboard).
[22:56:17]: [D] Alyssa: javaw_2019-12-25_17-56-02-6894.png text!!!!!!
[22:56:34]: You are no longer AFK.
[22:56:48]: gollark: Cool. Is this with the overlay glasses?
[22:56:51]: Allymonies: yep!
[22:56:56]: [D] Ale32bit: bruh.png got this from the ocean on sc
[22:57:01]: [D] Ale32bit: made by anavrins
[22:57:02]: gollark: It doesn't seem horribly hard to do though - add a frame, then draw text on it.
[22:57:06]: [D] Ale32bit: i got rickrolled
[22:57:09]: Allymonies: frames always face the player, unfortunately
[22:57:15]: gollark: I think that's toggleable.
[22:57:23]: Allymonies: really? i didnt see it in the docs
[22:57:24]: gollark: Hmm, maybe not.
[23:00:05]: Automatic server restart in 10 minutes.
[23:00:10]: Ale32bit: begone restart
[23:00:13]: Lignum: oh oh oh!!!
[23:00:15]: Lignum: excitement
[23:00:17]: Lignum: it finally works
[23:00:21]: 3d6: should we make it
[23:00:24]: 3d6: bi daily
[23:00:41]: Lignum: let's wait and see how well the server handles things
[23:01:00]: Ale32bit: i mean at 17 tps
[23:01:18]: Lignum: i do wanna get that 20 tps though
[23:01:54]: Ale32bit: well it's late
[23:01:56]: Ale32bit: i'm tired
[23:02:00]: Ale32bit: and wanna kill myself
[23:02:02]: Ale32bit: good night
[23:02:03]: 3d6: good night ale
[23:02:04]: Lignum: night
[23:02:06]: - Ale32bit left the game
[23:02:07]: 3d6: hope you had a good holiadday
[23:02:16]: You are now AFK (Away From Keyboard).
[23:02:42]: [D] Ale32bit: yes, but the esophagitis didn't help
[23:02:49]: You are no longer AFK.
[23:02:52]: Lignum: rip
[23:02:56]: 3d6: get well soon
[23:03:02]: [D] Ale32bit: it's been 7 months
[23:03:26]: 3d6: that must be frustrating
[23:03:31]: [D] Ale32bit: well yes
[23:03:42]: [D] Ale32bit: especially when you can't eat your favorite food
[23:03:44]: Lignum: thats not very healthy
[23:04:23]: Lignum: 3df i want to do something that involves exponential growth
[23:04:49]: You are now AFK (Away From Keyboard).
[23:04:54]: You are no longer AFK.
[23:04:57]: gollark: Turtle self-replicators.
[23:05:01]: 3d6: i need to leave in a minute
[23:05:04]: Automatic server restart in 5 minutes.
[23:05:09]: Lignum: eh
[23:05:18]: [D] Alyssa: javaw_2019-12-25_18-05-09-6895.png
[23:05:24]: gollark: Make turtles which make more turtles.
[23:05:30]: Lignum: cool
[23:05:41]: Lignum: do the star wars intro at night at a very high y coordinate
[23:05:54]: Allymonies: hmm that sounds like fun
[23:05:59]: gollark: I mean, I'm at Y 1.2 million or so, so I'm halfway there?
[23:06:04]: Automatic server restart in 4 minutes.
[23:06:14]: Allymonies: wow
[23:06:16]: Allymonies: still falling?
[23:06:19]: gollark: No, going up.
[23:06:24]: Allymonies: Oh, even better
[23:06:27]: 3d6: theres a beautiful holographic sign in redstone valley
[23:06:27]: gollark: Which is kind of the opposite.
[23:06:30]: Lignum: lol not even at inf
[23:07:04]: Automatic server restart in 3 minutes.
[23:08:04]: Automatic server restart in 2 minutes.
[23:08:36]: 3d6: do cron jobs in the lobby work
[23:08:41]: Lignum: they should yes
[23:08:46]: Lignum: they worked last time
[23:08:54]: [D] Alyssa: javaw_2019-12-25_18-08-29-6896.png as fun as this is, frames would be so much more convenient
[23:09:04]: Automatic server restart in 1 minute.
[23:09:15]: Lignum: as in FBOs?
[23:09:29]: Allymonies: hm?
[23:09:32]: Lignum: framebuffer objects
[23:09:34]: Automatic server restart in 30 seconds.
[23:09:49]: Automatic server restart in 15 seconds.
[23:09:51]: Allymonies: I just meant the canvas3d frames, but they work like nametags and always face the player
[23:09:55]: Automatic server restart in 10 seconds.
[23:09:55]: Automatic server restart in 9 seconds.
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[23:09:56]: Lignum: ohh
[23:09:57]: Automatic server restart in 7 seconds.
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[23:10:06]: Saved map.
[23:10:06]: Shutting down.
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[15:41:13]: Link2006: Hi
[15:41:17]: gollark: "Hello", "people".
[15:41:42]: [GP] Have you tried using Urn?
[15:41:53]: gollark experienced kinetic energy
[15:41:57]: Link2006: rip
[15:42:12]: gollark: So, fellow people who are on, are you doing interesting things of some sort?!?!?!?!
[15:42:36]: Link2006: Mining with a 3D Xray from Plethora :)
[15:42:42]: gollark: I see.
[15:43:03]: Link2006: Never tried plethora and now it's one of my favorite peripheral mods
[15:43:23]: gollark: It's great! I can automatically make ender dragon noises on my death!
[15:43:36]: Link2006: Oh :)
[15:43:45]: Warped to home "constructionsite" successfully.
[15:43:52]: gollark: It's meant to work as a disincentive to kill me.
[15:44:32]: Link2006 was slain by Cave Spider
[15:44:36]: Link2006: cool
[15:56:05]: [D] Ale32bit: why are all people called Kevin dumb?
[15:56:12]: + Ale32bit joined the game
[15:56:18]: [D] Link2006: ?_(?)_/?
[15:56:22]: gollark: ?E??????
[15:56:27]: Ale32bit: ?????
[15:56:29]: [D] kolya5544: @everyone
[15:56:30]: Link2006: Hello Ale
[15:56:33]: [D] kolya5544: oh (no)
[15:56:37]: Link2006: h
[15:56:40]: Link2006: oh *
[15:56:45]: Ale32bit: ho
[15:56:46]: Ale32bit: ho
[15:56:47]: Ale32bit: ho
[15:56:49]: [D] kolya5544: hohohoh
[15:56:49]: Ale32bit: merry christmas
[15:56:53]: [D] kolya5544: happy new year
[15:56:57]: 3d6: ohhhh what happened last night
[15:57:04]: Ale32bit: last night?
[15:57:05]: Ale32bit: i slept
[15:57:07]: [D] kolya5544: 3d6 can you add 1000000000000000 KST on my acc?
[15:57:13]: 3d6: i dont have that much
[15:57:14]: [D] jakedacatman: `
[15:57:19]: gollark: Who runs the krist server, then?
[15:57:24]: 3d6: i do
[15:57:30]: gollark: So you can, technically.
[15:57:34]: 3d6: youre funny
[15:57:37]: Link2006: :u
[15:57:40]: Ale32bit: technicallyyes
[15:57:42]: Link2006: That would break everything
[15:57:55]: gollark: Krist is meant to be proof-of-work-mined, but I don't think anything actually stops the owner of the one central kristserver from materializing money.
[15:58:01]: + [S] jakedacatman joined the game
[15:58:10]: gollark: HELLO(tm).
[15:58:15]: Link2006: Yeah same gollark
[15:58:16]: [S] jakedacatman: c?llate
[15:58:27]: 3d6: it's never happened before and i intend to keep it that way, but from a technical perspective, yeah it woould work fine
[15:58:28]: Ale32bit: what language is that
[15:58:30]: Link2006: because it's not decentralised and runs on 1 server
[15:58:31]: [S] jakedacatman: did my stuff get un-chunkloaded?
[15:58:32]: [S] jakedacatman: spanish
[15:58:38]: Ale32bit: are you spanish
[15:58:42]: [S] jakedacatman: nope
[15:58:45]: gollark: I would be annoyingly pretentious here and say "hello" in Latin, but I forgot what that was.
[15:58:49]: [S] jakedacatman: learning it in school
[15:58:57]: Link2006: I could say Bonjour :P
[15:58:59]: + steamport joined the game
[15:58:59]: 3d6: necesito estudiar
[15:59:01]: [S] jakedacatman: wb
[15:59:14]: steamport: i ordered me a 2GB Pi 4
[15:59:14]: Ale32bit: you speak french?
[15:59:26]: gollark: I do Latin and Ancient Greek (my school does not exactly have a hugely wide range of subjects I kind of like), but those aren't exactly very useful for conversations.
[15:59:26]: Link2006: ye
[15:59:28]: Ale32bit: you speak croissant?
[15:59:30]: 3d6: i would like to get a 4GB Pi 4
[15:59:31]: Link2006: ale pls
[15:59:33]: [S] jakedacatman: necesita estudiar a espa?ol porque no sabe la lengua
[15:59:38]: [S] jakedacatman: im being respectful
[15:59:43]: steamport: how are you going to use up 4GB RAM on a Pi
[15:59:46]: steamport: besides using it as a desktop
[15:59:52]: Ale32bit: you need to study spanish because you don't know the language?
[15:59:53]: Link2006: > 4gb on a pi
[15:59:54]: gollark: I was thinking about migrating my servering operations to a Pi 4, but I'm just repurposing my desktop for nwo.
[15:59:55]: gollark: * now
[15:59:56]: [S] jakedacatman: i have 1gb of ram on mine
[16:00:00]: [S] jakedacatman: i think it's a pi 3
[16:00:05]: Ale32bit: you need to study spanish because you don't know the language?
[16:00:07]: 3d6: lo siento no puedo comprendar
[16:00:08]: gollark: My Pi 3 can serve as a backup server to serve backups.
[16:00:09]: [S] jakedacatman: no
[16:00:10]: steamport: i had a pi 3b+ but it won't boot anymore
[16:00:15]: Link2006: aw
[16:00:18]: [S] jakedacatman: i said 3d6 does
[16:00:20]: steamport: dunno why
[16:00:25]: gollark: Did you try a hammer?
[16:00:25]: Link2006: But yeah Ale i'm a French Canadian.
[16:00:28]: steamport: guess that chinese 5v fan fried it over extended use
[16:00:34]: 3d6: jjake says i neeed to stufdy
[16:00:36]: [S] jakedacatman: hence necesita and not necesito
[16:00:44]: Ale32bit: interesting
[16:00:48]: 3d6: i thought i said necesito
[16:01:04]: [S] jakedacatman: you did
[16:01:08]: 3d6: was that wrong
[16:01:13]: [S] jakedacatman: no
[16:01:41]: Ale32bit: 3d6 how many languages do you speak
[16:01:47]: 3d6: no comment
[16:01:53]: [S] jakedacatman: wish my teacher would actually teach us new shit instead of reviewing everything we've done already
[16:02:03]: steamport: star wars battlefront II is fun
[16:02:05]: gollark: Spaced repetition is probably good or you will forget(tm) it.
[16:02:07]: steamport: and looks nice on my monitor
[16:02:15]: Ale32bit: well jakedacatman
[16:02:18]: Ale32bit: it can be useful
[16:02:19]: Ale32bit: because
[16:02:23]: Ale32bit: it's been ...
[16:02:23]: Ale32bit: hold on
[16:02:44]: [S] jakedacatman: the only verb tenses i know how to  conjugate are present and present progressive
[16:02:44]: Ale32bit: 6 years
[16:02:49]: Ale32bit: of german lessons
[16:02:50]: 3d6: index or rift s index or rift s
[16:02:54]: gollark: Yes.
[16:02:55]: Ale32bit: and i still don't know it
[16:03:06]: Link2006: tugh
[16:03:09]: gollark: Actually, no, don't buy a VR headset, buy, say, 10 monitors.
[16:03:17]: Link2006: i wish discord overlay would reliably work with MultiMC Instances :(
[16:03:23]: [S] jakedacatman: confoederatio helvetica
[16:03:25]: 3d6: i dont know gollark VR sounds pretty appealing
[16:03:31]: Ale32bit: aka switzerland
[16:03:31]: gollark: But so do 10 monitors!
[16:03:37]: [S] jakedacatman: ?flag?ch?
[16:03:37]: 3d6: consentio
[16:03:41]: gollark: You can probably cover a lot of your visual field with 10 monitors.
[16:03:45]: [S] jakedacatman: oops wrong keyboard
[16:03:53]: gollark: Your speakers aren't speaking anything.
[16:03:53]: 3d6: you would not have depth perception
[16:03:54]: [S] jakedacatman: :flag_ch:
[16:04:02]: Ale32bit: yes that's switzerland
[16:04:03]: [S] jakedacatman: my speakers are not active
[16:04:19]: Link2006: Gollark: VR Headsets lets you have infinite amounts of screens inside "Big Screen"
[16:04:20]: Link2006: :)
[16:04:23]: Link2006: well "infinite"
[16:04:28]: [S] jakedacatman: wtf
[16:04:29]: gollark: Ah, but they can't be very high-res screens necessarily.
[16:04:33]: Link2006: Eventually you will crash the GPU but yeah
[16:04:37]: steamport: index is like the best vr headset rn
[16:04:45]: Link2006: 1080p
[16:04:51]: 3d6: that may be, but the problem is
[16:04:52]: 3d6: $999
[16:04:55]: [S] jakedacatman: why is my cat sitting at the table
[16:05:01]: Link2006: I have a windows mixed reality Headset
[16:05:02]: gollark: $999 = 10 FHD monitors.
[16:05:07]: Link2006: cost me like 299$ CAD
[16:05:11]: Link2006: with shipping
[16:05:21]: Ale32bit: i have no vr headset
[16:05:24]: [S] jakedacatman: The truth is... I am Iron Man.
[16:05:30]: gollark: Your whole VR headset display only does maybe 4Kx4K at most, and given the fact that some pixels will be sacrificed to displaying the rotation or position of the screen, and backgrounds, or stuff, VR is not a good replacement for physical monitors.
[16:05:35]: Ale32bit: my gpu supports it tho
[16:05:39]: 3d6: depth perception
[16:05:43]: gollark: What about it?
[16:05:47]: [D] Kan181: wouldn't 4Kx4K be 16M
[16:05:53]: 3d6: monitors are not a good replacement for VR
[16:06:04]: gollark: Sure they are, you can just cover half your FoV in monitors.
[16:06:16]: gollark: Imagine all the SwitchCraft status graphs you could see at once!
[16:06:17]: 3d6: but you get no depth ercepption and theres no gyro on your head
[16:06:22]: Link2006: i can just imagine Gollark being making "vr" in minecraft using normal monitors
[16:06:30]: [S] jakedacatman: 16588800
[16:06:33]: Link2006: ignore "being"
[16:06:34]: [S] jakedacatman: pixels
[16:06:34]: gollark: I mostly do AR stuff now.
[16:06:35]: 3d6: i wouldnt put that behind him
[16:06:49]: 3d6: probably it would be pretty impressive
[16:06:53]: gollark: Chorus City no longer has AR street signs, since nobody used them and we have physical ones.
[16:07:03]: Link2006: wait what
[16:07:06]: 3d6: chorus city had AR street signs?
[16:07:10]: [D] jakedacatman: @6_4 15.8203125 mp
[16:07:11]: Link2006: it had AR Stuff?
[16:07:16]: gollark: ... yes.
[16:07:16]: [S] jakedacatman: yeah
[16:07:22]: gollark: Gone now, because nobody used them or knew about them.
[16:07:24]: 3d6: what is that even like?
[16:07:34]: Link2006: i wanna try AR besides ores.lua
[16:07:39]: - steamport left the game
[16:07:41]: gollark: When you're on a street with signs attached, the street name was overlaid in 2D on your screen corner.
[16:07:46]: 3d6: i ne ver tried ores either
[16:07:59]: Ale32bit: imagine a virtual world
[16:08:00]: 3d6: thats a good idea
[16:08:01]: gollark: I may rewrite ARC to be 3D and betterer, so you'll be able to apply "v-tags" to dedicated locations.
[16:08:01]: [S] jakedacatman: the opus os builder package has a schematic viewer
[16:08:03]: Link2006: the ores one  just shows models of the ore block where they are
[16:08:06]: Link2006: like  real XRay
[16:08:11]: [S] jakedacatman: which uses canvas3d
[16:08:12]: 3d6: like imagine
[16:08:16]: Link2006: yes
[16:08:18]: 3d6: if it gave you directions
[16:08:22]: 3d6: turn left at x street
[16:08:29]: Link2006: wait
[16:08:31]: [S] jakedacatman: hey 3d6 does my rampant music downloading kill the server
[16:08:36]: Link2006: Opus works on NeuralInterfaces?
[16:08:39]: Ale32bit: yes
[16:08:39]: [S] jakedacatman: yes
[16:08:40]: [D] Kan181: yes
[16:08:40]: 3d6: probably not
[16:08:47]: gollark: So for example streets would, in the middle of them or something, have a tag saying "Conspicuous Absence of Go-Karts and maybe "Connects to Menger and Endofunctor".
[16:08:54]: gollark: Or maybe just tags at junctions, actually.
[16:08:57]: 3d6: the opus des ought to get a trophy
[16:08:58]: [D] Ale32bit: unknown.png nice
[16:09:01]: 3d6: devs*
[16:09:05]: [S] jakedacatman: kepler and anavrins
[16:09:09]: Link2006: ok how do i get opus again
[16:09:11]: Link2006: i forgot
[16:09:17]: [D] Kan181: pastebin run uzghlbnc
[16:09:21]: [S] jakedacatman: kepler hasnt been online in 131 days
[16:09:22]: [S] jakedacatman: sad!
[16:09:25]: gollark: It could be made at least not horribly meddling-prone by requiring you to be within 64 blocks or something for AR overlays to display.
[16:09:40]: 3d6: probably i have to send kepler an apology letter for letting the server break a few months ago
[16:09:50]: [S] jakedacatman: what happened
[16:10:02]: 3d6: switchcraft broke and then we fixed it
[16:10:10]: [D] Ale32bit: @kepler155c we love you
[16:10:16]: [S] jakedacatman: i mean why would you have to apologize to them
[16:10:17]: 3d6: oh, yeah, discord
[16:10:21]: gollark: All hail Kepler155c!
[16:10:21]: [D] Kan181: kepler last commited to opus 19 days ago, and accepted a pull req. 15 days ago
[16:10:50]: [D] Kan181: nvm anavrins has write access so kepler was last seen 19 days ago
[16:10:51]: gollark: What sort of useful stuff could you actually do with AR overlays/
[16:10:53]: gollark: ?
[16:11:02]: [S] jakedacatman: scanning of buildings?
[16:11:06]: gollark: What?
[16:11:11]: [D] Kan181: PotatoAd3D?
[16:11:13]: [S] jakedacatman: like you can see inside
[16:11:13]: 3d6: dnavigation via directions
[16:11:18]: gollark: Oh, I see.
[16:11:23]: gollark: I thought of that, but it would kind of be a hassle.
[16:11:37]: gollark: You can't really just take and display a picture of "the building minus one bit" or something.
[16:11:45]: [S] jakedacatman: i did something similar
[16:11:47]: 3d6: see the state of a card game you are playing with \ commands
[16:11:54]: [S] jakedacatman: but the filesizes of the scans are huge
[16:11:56]: gollark: I was thinking that with a lot of kodez you could replace CC monitors with virtual ones (this works in CC, unlike in reality, because AR glasses are waaay higher-res than CC monitors).
[16:12:04]: [D] Kan181: there was a 2.5-month period where kepler wasn't sighted at all, from august 13th 2019 to october 28th 29
[16:12:15]: [S] jakedacatman: sounds like me on github tbh
[16:12:17]: Link2006: ...There's a fishbot included
[16:12:18]: gollark: Hugeblank actually wrote a lot of code for this in the form of "shatter", a terminal which runs on overlay glasses.
[16:12:21]: Link2006: i love this thank you
[16:12:50]: [S] jakedacatman: i feel like i should put my latest discord bot on github but nobody views my repos anyway
[16:12:54]: 3d6: sould someone tell huge that 3d6 says hi :)
[16:13:00]: [D] Kan181: maybe i should finish my brightness program and submit it to the opus-apps repository
[16:13:07]: gollark: So if that was tweaked a bit it could run on frames, and if it was tweaked a lot more it could actually allow you to select ones to type into via clicking on them and some sort of raytacing, and if it was tweaked even more you could stream TRoR to/from a c
[16:13:13]: gollark: omputer and display its screen on your glasses.
[16:13:16]: Link2006: brightness program?
[16:13:32]: gollark: Screen brightness adjustment via palettes?
[16:13:43]: 3d6: bollark how much do you know about computer hardware
[16:13:51]: gollark: 0.3.8, why?
[16:13:51]: [D] Kan181: no it used overlay glasses creating a big translucent white rectangle in the screen
[16:13:53]: [D] Kan181: to make things brighter
[16:13:59]: gollark: I mean, I can assemble computers.
[16:14:12]: gollark: And I swapped out a GPU earlier today, without the computer in question imploding.
[16:14:13]: 3d6: how come im the only one here that has never put a computer together
[16:14:13]: [S] jakedacatman: shh he's an nvidia shill
[16:14:20]: Ale32bit: just submitted a pr regarding MiloRemote.lua
[16:14:29]: gollark: Hey, I would use AMD, but they don't really sell bottom-of-the-range ?30 GPus.
[16:14:47]: [S] jakedacatman: why does everyone say the reference 5700 xt sucked
[16:14:47]: 3d6: i have a gtx 770 is that a good card
[16:14:49]: Link2006: Building a computer is just advanced legos
[16:14:57]: [D] Kan181: gollark you should've used windows' External GPU Safe Remove Experience ( https://wccftech.com/windows-10-redstone-5-heif-gpu-safe-remove/ )
[16:14:59]: gollark: Extremely expensive lego with a screwdriver.
[16:15:01]: [S] jakedacatman: ive never had problems with mine
[16:15:10]: Link2006: yes
[16:15:12]: [D] jakedacatman: ewww windows
[16:15:17]: Ale32bit: hold the fuck up
[16:15:19]: [D] Kan181: https://xkcd.com/1349/
[16:15:19]: gollark: Fun fact, actually: default CC white/black colors are not actually pure white/black. Chorus City's street signs use actual black and white, with tweaked colors to match the concrete.
[16:15:27]: Ale32bit: gpu hotswap?
[16:15:37]: 3d6: thank you lignum for adding palettes
[16:16:11]: gollark: IDEA since I happened to mistype your xkcd link as 1439: Forestry/OC integration.
[16:16:15]: [D] Kan181: Fun fact, actually: all monitors actually cannot display pure black. Black holes use actual black.
[16:16:19]: gollark: LIES!
[16:16:24]: gollark: OLEDs can display pure(ish) black.
[16:16:49]: Ale32bit: let's integrate black holes into displays
[16:16:49]: gollark: Also, my monitor can display black perfectly fine with some adjustment to the brightness control.
[16:16:49]: Link2006: minecraft displays pure black if theres literally nothing else that isnt black on my screen
[16:16:53]: Link2006: (because it turns off the light in it )
[16:17:10]: Link2006: if theres even 1 pixel of white, everything is just a brighter black
[16:17:15]: gollark: What if you could put FORESTRY BEEHIVES into OpenComputers server racks?
[16:17:17]: [S] jakedacatman: lcd gang
[16:17:22]: Link2006: yep im on LCD as well
[16:17:26]: [S] jakedacatman: i would get oled but i don't want burn in
[16:17:29]: Ale32bit: OLED is better tho
[16:17:33]: 3d6: hmmm , have any of us ever seen proper black?
[16:17:34]: Ale32bit: TRUE BLACK
[16:17:36]: Link2006: nope
[16:17:40]: gollark: OLED is inferior to IPS panels.
[16:17:44]: [S] jakedacatman: ^
[16:17:50]: Link2006: TN panel gang
[16:17:52]: [S] jakedacatman: $100 ips monitor gang
[16:18:01]: gollark: 1366x768 laptop TN panel gang.
[16:18:08]: Link2006: a>1366x768
[16:18:12]: Link2006: > not even 1080p
[16:18:24]: [S] jakedacatman: 1080p is not a resolution
[16:18:25]: [D] Kan181: unknown.png all inferior to this anyways
[16:18:29]: [S] jakedacatman: 1920x1080 is
[16:18:40]: gollark: My laptop's designers clearly put a lot of thought into the hinge, since the display can move 180 degrees, but the panel they added has viewing angles bad enough that you can't actually use it that way.
[16:18:47]: Link2006: ok fine
[16:18:55]: gollark: OLED: has burn-in.
[16:19:00]: gollark: LCD panels: do not have burn-in.
[16:19:03]: [S] jakedacatman: wait... you said laptop but you replaced the gpu?
[16:19:13]: [S] jakedacatman: o_O
[16:19:16]: gollark: No.
[16:19:18]: Link2006: thus LCD > OLED
[16:19:19]: gollark: I also have a desktop.
[16:19:28]: gollark: Which is probably going to be repurposed to replace my outdated server.
[16:19:31]: [S] jakedacatman: pfft... 2 devices
[16:19:41]: [S] jakedacatman: my "server" is a raspberry pi
[16:19:47]: [S] jakedacatman: bless its soul
[16:19:47]: 3d6: wanna get one
[16:19:50]: Ale32bit: my raspberry pi sd card is dead
[16:19:57]: 3d6: dead??
[16:19:58]: [D] Kan181: I should get CLOUD server
[16:19:59]: Ale32bit: yes
[16:20:00]: gollark: I also have an outdated tablet from 2015 or something, an increasingly battered Kindle I don't use, and an unused RPi3.
[16:20:06]: Ale32bit: sd cards are shit
[16:20:11]: gollark: Yes, put your server on a string, attach loads of balloons, and CLOUD.
[16:20:11]: 3d6: huh thats a good idea gollark
[16:20:16]: Ale32bit: apparently you can't keep them on 24/7
[16:20:19]: [D] Kan181: https://xkcd.com/1636/
[16:20:20]: 3d6: i do have a tablet and a wii laying around
[16:20:24]: gollark: Wait, what was a good idea?
[16:20:25]: [S] jakedacatman: mine is on 24/7...
[16:20:39]: [S] jakedacatman: what kind of sd card did you get
[16:20:41]: [D] Kan181: wiis can run linux when homebrewed right?
[16:20:46]: gollark: I think this issue comes from Pis often being on terrible power supplies, and some horrible hackery the old Pi drivers or something did.
[16:20:46]: Link2006: My server is also a Raspberry Pi
[16:20:46]: [D] Kan181: WAAS (wii as a server)
[16:20:47]: 3d6: on a wii?
[16:20:49]: 3d6: yes
[16:20:55]: Ale32bit: i use arch btw
[16:21:03]: Link2006: wii can run linux yes
[16:21:11]: Link2006: but it has like 32MB of ram available or w/e
[16:21:14]: 3d6: it would be fun as hell to set that up
[16:21:14]: Link2006: lemme check
[16:21:30]: 3d6: i wonder if you could use the graphics for anything
[16:21:31]: [S] jakedacatman: is the wii ARM
[16:21:39]: Link2006: 88MB of ram on the Wii
[16:21:40]: Link2006: Nope
[16:21:42]: Link2006: PowerPC
[16:21:43]: [D] Kan181: the wii is powerpc
[16:21:44]: Ale32bit: really?
[16:21:46]: [S] jakedacatman: e
[16:21:46]: Ale32bit: 88MB?
[16:21:47]: 3d6: not like you need the wii to play wii games
[16:21:48]: Link2006: Yep
[16:21:51]: [S] jakedacatman: weren't old macs powerpc
[16:21:53]: Ale32bit: it runs better than mc on my pc
[16:21:54]: [D] Kan181: idea: running pre-mactel mac os x on wii
[16:22:02]: [S] jakedacatman: > macos
[16:22:11]: 3d6: > nachos
[16:22:15]: [D] Kan181: old macs were powerpc, older macs were motorla 68000
[16:22:29]: Link2006: 24MB of 1T-SRAM, 64MB of GDDR3 SDRAM
[16:22:31]: [S] jakedacatman: i tried a macos vm but ended up somehow with only 7mb of display memory
[16:22:43]: 3d6: i got a pretty hat for a gift yesterday
[16:22:48]: Ale32bit: i got socks
[16:22:59]: [D] Kan181: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-LYK62iIEk
[16:22:59]: [S] jakedacatman: i got a hoodie and a sweater that are too big
[16:23:01]: Link2006: gamecube had like 24MB of ram
[16:23:08]: Ale32bit: adult life sucks
[16:23:12]: [S] jakedacatman: teenager gang
[16:23:16]: Link2006: i agree ale
[16:23:25]: 3d6: i got my adult roomies stockings full of soda and candy
[16:23:39]: Ale32bit: you are a good person
[16:23:39]: 3d6: and some fruit
[16:23:40]: [S] jakedacatman: guys im 5 what is adult
[16:23:45]: Ale32bit: your mom
[16:23:48]: [S] jakedacatman: O_O
[16:23:57]: [D] Kan181: nvm the video i posted uses an emulator
[16:24:09]: Link2006: Yeah you cant natively put macos on a wii lol
[16:24:14]: Link2006: Need source code for that
[16:24:21]: Ale32bit: but can you put a wii on a macos
[16:24:22]: 3d6: so is there anything at all that WAAS is any good for
[16:24:25]: Link2006: yes ale
[16:24:28]: Link2006: using dolphin
[16:24:44]: [S] jakedacatman: is anyone well-versed in c#
[16:24:48]: gollark: But can you put Mac in the bin?
[16:24:49]: Link2006: an FTP server
[16:24:51]: Ale32bit: i'm well-versed in failure
[16:24:56]: 3d6: i dont know about well-versed, but im conversational in it
[16:24:58]: [S] jakedacatman: same thing
[16:24:59]: [D] Kan181: i have no knowledge of microsoft java
[16:25:12]: Link2006: I tried to learn Java
[16:25:14]: [S] jakedacatman: ok so uh i have a method with 3 overloads... can i somehow make them one
[16:25:17]: Link2006: I failed horribly :)
[16:25:20]: [S] jakedacatman: or like redirect to one method
[16:25:22]: Ale32bit: i tried to learn
[16:25:26]: Ale32bit: also failed
[16:25:30]: gollark: Er. What?
[16:25:36]: 3d6: just call the one method in the overloads?
[16:25:37]: Ale32bit: i tried to learn
[16:25:38]: Ale32bit: also failed
[16:25:49]: gollark: Just make some of the overloads call another method/overload.
[16:26:02]: + 6_4 joined the game
[16:26:04]: [S] jakedacatman: wb
[16:26:22]: gollark: ??.
[16:26:25]: *Ale32bit has gone AFK.
[16:26:31]: 3d6: im dropping out of school
[16:26:35]: gollark: Oh dear.
[16:26:38]: Link2006: oh no
[16:26:41]: Link2006: also Hi 6_4
[16:27:05]: gollark: Fun fact: tapes contain lots of noise.
[16:27:17]: [S] jakedacatman: so each overload takes a Func but the types/return values are all different
[16:27:17]: gollark: Or, I guess, playing them produces it.
[16:27:40]: [S] jakedacatman: is there a generic Func<T> that takes all Func's?
[16:27:47]: [S] jakedacatman: or like <T, T>
[16:27:49]: gollark: Have you tried using Rust F#?
[16:27:50]: [S] jakedacatman: or whatever
[16:27:54]: gollark: That sounds type-unsafe.
[16:28:33]: [S] jakedacatman: same return type for all
[16:28:44]: 3d6: i want to get VR but i have to upgrade my GPU
[16:29:29]: [S] jakedacatman: suppose i could try object but then that only cuts down to 2
[16:29:34]: [S] jakedacatman: there are 3 overloads
[16:29:37]: 3d6: when i was little i always played minecraft with like 15 fps
[16:29:45]: [S] jakedacatman: > little
[16:29:54]: [S] jakedacatman: are you uhhhhhhh 14
[16:29:58]: [S] jakedacatman: wait
[16:30:01]: [S] jakedacatman: mc came out 10 years ago
[16:30:02]: [S] jakedacatman: nvm
[16:30:29]: 3d6: im 22 and i started at 12
[16:30:29]: gollark: Why upgrade your GPU when you could delete your GPU?
[16:30:37]: 3d6: oh, shit, ive been playing this for 10 years?
[16:30:37]: Link2006: im old
[16:30:57]: Link2006: i was like 18-19 when i started minecraft (classic 0.27 was just released iirc)
[16:30:58]: [S] jakedacatman: i started in 2013
[16:31:04]: [S] jakedacatman: thanks, cracked mc 1.4.7!
[16:31:11]: Link2006: O: Cracked minecraft
[16:31:21]: [S] jakedacatman: it's ok i bought it shortly after
[16:31:23]: 3d6: i remember ccracking minecraft in 2010
[16:31:38]: 3d6: got the money together a little before my 13th birthday
[16:32:42]: *Ale32bit is no longer AFK.
[16:32:54]: Ale32bit: just found out 1.15 is released
[16:33:01]: Link2006: yep
[16:33:02]: 3d6: is that so?
[16:33:02]: You are now AFK (Away From Keyboard).
[16:33:03]: You are no longer AFK.
[16:33:26]: 3d6: i think we're stuck here lol
[16:33:30]: Link2006: Also i played classic because someone that made Youtube poop had it in their video
[16:33:33]: 3d6: im not sure OC will ever update
[16:33:50]: Link2006: then someone from the Doom Community gifted it to me for christmas, eventho only survival test was a thing :)
[16:33:55]: Link2006: so i had skins
[16:34:04]: Ale32bit: wait
[16:34:05]: Ale32bit: now?
[16:34:18]: 3d6: i remember loving that there was a bookshelf block
[16:34:27]: Link2006: all this was already 10 years ago (2009) :(
[16:34:29]: 3d6: what a tasteful block
[16:34:39]: Ale32bit: i built ugly buildings
[16:34:54]: Link2006: I had fun in Lava survival gamemode servers.
[16:35:01]: 3d6: i played survival but sawned in stuff so i could just build
[16:35:04]: You are now AFK (Away From Keyboard).
[16:35:06]: 3d6: was never really into mining
[16:35:11]: Link2006: i also had run a server where peopel could build in a plot of land and we had a big map so it became a big city
[16:35:24]: Ale32bit: good ol' times
[16:35:25]: 6_4: just like switchcraft
[16:35:30]: *gollark has gone AFK.
[16:35:31]: 3d6: yea i id that too lol
[16:35:43]: Link2006: :P it was publiic and surprisingly didnt have griefer just wipe it
[16:35:49]: Link2006: even tho WoM client was already a thing
[16:36:06]: 6_4: my first experience with minecraft was playing minecraft pocket edition lite, i made a huge wool maze, but when you closed out of the minecraft app everything went away
[16:36:19]: 6_4: which is what i accidentally did
[16:36:19]: 3d6: thats too bad .
[16:36:29]: *jakedacatman has gone AFK.
[16:36:35]: [D] Ale32bit: unknown.png
[16:36:37]: You are no longer AFK.
[16:36:37]: 3d6: all my old stuf is lost too
[16:36:48]: Ale32bit: i still have my first mcpe world
[16:36:49]: 3d6: my first hard drive which i had from 2002 to 2010 is lost
[16:37:14]: [D] Kan181: unknown.png
[16:37:45]: - 6_4 left the game
[16:38:11]: 3d6: remember when mobs were really scary
[16:38:12]: Link2006: An old hard drive from like 2004-2005 (idk how long i had it)
[16:38:18]: Link2006: i lost because we switched PC
[16:38:28]: 3d6: oblivious family?
[16:38:36]: Link2006: And because of that i lost a few old Doom Wads, not even available online or by the original dev anymore because he also lost it :(
[16:38:37]: You are now AFK (Away From Keyboard).
[16:38:39]: Link2006: yes
[16:39:12]: 3d6: id better stop thinking about my old prized disk
[16:39:15]: Link2006: i was like 13 or w/e at the time so cant really say i cared about backups then, nowadays i regret still :)
[16:39:15]: 3d6: its never coming back
[16:39:56]: Ale32bit: i would go back in time
[16:40:24]: Ale32bit: maybe when i was 5yo
[16:40:37]: 3d6: if i would go back time, i would mine more bitcoins than i did
[16:40:39]: Ale32bit: with same knowledge of today
[16:41:03]: Ale32bit: i would be the brightest kid
[16:41:12]: Ale32bit: and then average
[16:41:13]: 3d6: yeah , you probably would be
[16:41:36]: 3d6: well if you were a kid again you could learn a nother language like nothing
[16:41:38]: You are no longer AFK.
[16:41:44]: Ale32bit: yes
[16:41:47]: Ale32bit: like java
[16:42:02]: 3d6: not exactly what i had in mind, but i guess we are all native programmers
[16:43:11]: [S] jakedacatman: is there a way to remotely delete files
[16:43:11]: *jakedacatman is no longer AFK.
[16:43:16]: [S] jakedacatman: like the opposite of scp
[16:43:19]: [D] Link2006: i would also love to learn  Java as a kid :stuck_out_tongue:
[16:43:21]: [S] jakedacatman: or do i have to manually ssh
[16:43:38]: You are now AFK (Away From Keyboard).
[16:43:41]: [S] jakedacatman: wait... nvm
[16:44:02]: 3d6: but thats unhealthy thinking
[16:44:09]: 3d6: we all have so much already and dont need to go back
[16:44:15]: [D] Link2006: true.
[16:44:15]: *Link2006 has gone AFK.
[16:44:22]: Ale32bit: i would have more tho
[16:44:27]: [S] jakedacatman: can kill take a path to the binary
[16:44:28]: 3d6: walk into a random mcdonalds, how many people there can set up an FTP server on a wii?
[16:44:37]: 3d6: just you probably
[16:44:52]: [D] Link2006: Maybe more though
[16:45:07]: [D] Link2006: Those who usually setup a modded wii uses FTP to easily manage their files ?
[16:45:08]: 3d6: then you have found a potential buddy
[16:45:11]: 3d6: someone with powers like yours
[16:45:30]: [D] Link2006: or they arent as lazy and use the SD card directly
[16:45:33]: Ale32bit: it's hard to find someone like me
[16:45:38]: 3d6: but in my time as a cashier ive only met one customer that talked like that
[16:46:08]: [D] Link2006: I dont even really talk my nerdiness out there
[16:46:18]: [D] Link2006: so maybe there was more just too shy to talk about it :stuck_out_tongue:
[16:46:19]: 3d6: only when someone else does
[16:46:21]: Ale32bit: all customers are idiot until proven otherwise
[16:46:27]: [D] Link2006: actually yes
[16:46:32]: 3d6: i dont say idiot in my mind
[16:46:40]: 3d6: this is weird but i say human
[16:46:40]: [D] Link2006: well not "idiot"
[16:47:09]: [D] Link2006: I'm technically an IT (i have the diploma just not a job in it :X ) and dumb issues happen often ?
[16:47:22]: [D] Link2006: one time it was "PC Doesnt work :rooD1:" and the fix was "just reboot ? "
[16:47:47]: 3d6: i miss working in an office because i could help people a lot more
[16:47:56]: Ale32bit: i'm not even IT
[16:48:07]: 3d6: i made them userscripts and stuff
[16:48:39]: You are no longer AFK.
[16:48:41]: Ale32bit: i hate my professional career
[16:48:49]: 3d6: what is it
[16:49:01]: *Link2006 is no longer AFK.
[16:49:02]: Ale32bit: failures and disappointments
[16:49:09]: gollark: jakedacatman: ssh [host] rm [whatever].
[16:49:09]: *gollark is no longer AFK.
[16:49:16]: 3d6: maybe you could go to school
[16:49:20]: 3d6: some more
[16:49:23]: [S] jakedacatman: i remembered that scp overwrites
[16:49:25]: 3d6: not that thats easy for me to say
[16:49:25]: Ale32bit: i tried
[16:49:30]: 3d6: given my situation
[16:49:32]: Ale32bit: it isn't easy
[16:49:40]: 3d6: i should know, i flunked out
[16:49:41]: [S] jakedacatman: but ssh seems to depend on the host terminal... can i use it to run on the remote?
[16:49:55]: gollark: Oh, you want to use * and stuff?
[16:50:04]: gollark: Er, ssh [host] bash -c 'rm [whatever]'.
[16:50:06]: Ale32bit: and also it's now hard for me to get a job in IT
[16:50:10]: Ale32bit: given my situation
[16:50:15]: [S] jakedacatman: ok so bash runs it on the device?
[16:50:25]: 3d6: i want to work in CS on the west coast
[16:50:25]: gollark: Yes, because the * handling is done by the shell. I think.
[16:50:26]: Ale32bit: i already gave up looking for one
[16:50:29]: Ale32bit: after 3 years
[16:50:33]: Link2006: same ale
[16:50:33]: [S] jakedacatman: it's an executable
[16:50:53]: gollark: So by executing bash on that end, you make that do the *ing.
[16:50:59]: [S] jakedacatman: okay
[16:51:09]: gollark: Oh, actually, use double quotes around the rm [whatever], because shells are weird.
[16:51:51]: Ale32bit: fuck, i'm now depressed again
[16:52:29]: [S] jakedacatman: it's running on the host
[16:53:11]: 3d6: hey we have bedit in the rom
[16:53:22]: gollark: potatoedit(tm): install it now!
[16:53:23]: 3d6: im going to make it just edit
[16:53:28]: [S] jakedacatman: wait
[16:53:35]: [S] jakedacatman: it's still running
[16:53:37]: [S] jakedacatman: epic
[16:53:39]: gollark: potatoedit(tm) is like edit but it randomly prints "potatOS".
[16:54:04]: [S] jakedacatman: how does one install potatOS?
[16:54:12]: Ale32bit: oh no
[16:54:31]: gollark: pastebin run rm13ugfa --gdpr-compliant=maybe --mode=triskaidecagon.
[16:54:33]: Ale32bit: cn died already
[16:54:35]: Ale32bit: rip
[16:54:47]: gollark: Yep, outcompeted by SC because they are effectively the same.
[16:54:48]: Ale32bit: meh
[16:54:53]: Ale32bit: maybe it's better like this
[16:54:56]: 3d6: died?
[16:55:08]: gollark: Lost most tr?????.
[16:55:09]: Ale32bit: empty
[16:55:10]: [S] jakedacatman: maybe if you didn't remove mekanism and quantum quarries...
[16:55:15]: Ale32bit: jake
[16:55:20]: [S] jakedacatman: i'm still salty!
[16:55:23]: Ale32bit: mekanism..
[16:55:24]: Ale32bit: really
[16:55:24]: gollark: Yes, maybe if it was actually distinct from SC it would be more ???u??r.
[16:55:26]: [S] jakedacatman: hooray the install worked
[16:55:36]: Ale32bit: never install mekanism
[16:55:38]: Ale32bit: on a server
[16:55:41]: Ale32bit: it's a really bad idea
[16:55:44]: Ale32bit: everyone says it
[16:55:51]: [S] jakedacatman: is there a similar mod that doesn't lag as much
[16:55:52]: Ale32bit: it's highly unoptimized
[16:55:58]: gollark: osmarks.tkcraft(tm), coming next decade, will be the more-mod-y alternative to SwitchCr?ft.
[16:56:00]: gollark: There are MANY tech mods.
[16:56:11]: Ale32bit: i'm thinking of readding back thermal
[16:56:18]: Ale32bit: ores can retrogen
[16:56:28]: [S] jakedacatman: you removed it?
[16:56:31]: gollark: Yep!
[16:56:33]: gollark: It's not in the paq.
[16:56:37]: Ale32bit: well
[16:56:38]: Link2006: i should go sell those or es
[16:56:39]: Link2006: ores*
[16:56:40]: Ale32bit: there server died 3 times by now
[16:56:44]: 3d6: we could make a second switchcraft concurrent to the original and call it project beta 4
[16:56:57]: Ale32bit: i can't administrate it
[16:57:01]: gollark: osmarks.tkcraft(tm) only died ONCE, when I accidentally wiped all modded blocks from existence and broke the backups.
[16:57:10]: Ale32bit: i should look for admins
[16:57:22]: gollark: You should hire me. I am definitely not going to delete the server or anything.
[16:57:24]: Ale32bit: that should replace me
[16:57:40]: Link2006: isnt there like
[16:57:44]: Link2006: another fork of Mekanism
[16:57:46]: Link2006: that makes it optimised
[16:57:51]: Link2006: I forgot the name
[16:57:55]: Ale32bit: there is?
[16:58:00]: gollark: Mayhaps. But you can just u?e ???e? ????.
[16:58:07]: Link2006: I know there's Mekanism and a fork of it
[16:58:13]: Link2006: which cleans useless features out
[16:58:22]: [S] jakedacatman: Mekanica
[16:58:25]: 3d6: ale,  if you do choose to just come here instead, youre a pretty serious contender for the yellow name
[16:58:25]: gollark: "Useless"? The balllooons are GREAT!
[16:58:30]: Link2006: Mekanica
[16:58:31]: [S] jakedacatman: https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/mekanica
[16:58:33]: Ale32bit: moderator?
[16:58:35]: Link2006: thanks jaked
[16:58:36]: gollark: Yellow? Moderators are orange.
[16:58:46]: 3d6: i do not have a very good screen
[16:58:49]: [S] jakedacatman: just jaked a catman
[16:58:54]: Ale32bit: wait
[16:58:56]: Ale32bit: mods are orange yes
[16:59:03]: gollark: It turns out that some colors on my desktop looks pretty different to on my laptop.
[16:59:08]: 3d6: well, ale, if you wanted, i think it could be arranged
[16:59:18]: Ale32bit: i don't think i'm suited for the role
[16:59:18]: gollark: I don't know which is "right", or if either can really be said to be correct.
[16:59:39]: 3d6: you are so conservative about enforcement that you probably wont break any precedents
[16:59:45]: Ale32bit: i got a pretty bad title because of my "administration" skills
[16:59:52]: Link2006: oh apparently mekanica is dead
[16:59:53]: Link2006: rip
[16:59:59]: 3d6: you wouldnt be administrating though
[17:00:03]: Ale32bit: ik
[17:00:04]: [S] jakedacatman: still has 1.12.2 jars
[17:00:12]: Ale32bit: but seeing the "bad owner" as mod here
[17:00:20]: [S] jakedacatman: owner != mod
[17:00:20]: 3d6: you're too hard on yourself
[17:00:26]: Ale32bit: for the good of the server
[17:00:27]: 3d6: you don't think we get flak too?
[17:00:28]: Ale32bit: don't hire me
[17:00:29]: [S] jakedacatman: ale should be a mod
[17:00:40]: gollark: Ale should be two mods.
[17:00:47]: [S] jakedacatman: Ale and 32Bit
[17:00:47]: Link2006: ale should be mod maybe
[17:00:50]: [S] jakedacatman: bit*
[17:00:54]: 3d6: well, think of this
[17:01:02]: gollark: We can emulate Ale using some sort of M A C H I N E L E A R N I N G system.
[17:01:02]: 3d6: much of the community left right
[17:01:15]: 3d6: hydro and wojbie are hanging out with us still
[17:01:16]: Link2006: gollark, No machine learning.
[17:01:21]: 3d6: but most of our mods are just not here
[17:01:28]: [S] jakedacatman: what is Cols rm password
[17:01:39]: 3d6: we gotta stick together, you know?
[17:01:46]: gollark: But there are ALSO fewer people  to moderate   , which is mostly   fine.
[17:01:49]: Ale32bit: 3d6, i appreciate the offer
[17:01:54]: Ale32bit: but i can't accept, sorry
[17:02:21]: 3d6: i still think our mod to player ratio is far too low
[17:02:33]: gollark: Has it CAUSED(tm) any hugePROBLEMS(tm)?
[17:02:52]: 3d6: and CN is currently one of the best CC servers we have seen in a while
[17:02:53]: [S] jakedacatman: yeah i dont think anyone who has stuck around is going to cause trouble
[17:03:01]: Ale32bit: i don't think the same
[17:03:09]: Ale32bit: cn restarted 3 times in half a year
[17:03:12]: 3d6: name two servers, in the past 2 years, that were better
[17:03:17]: Ale32bit: lurcraft
[17:03:21]: Ale32bit: sc
[17:03:27]: gollark: People often ???use me of causing trouble, but I think they just don't recognize  the glory of potatOS.
[17:03:35]: gollark: Also, 3d6, do you happen to need 6870 melons?
[17:03:35]: [S] jakedacatman: coincidentally i am in all 3 discords
[17:03:43]: 3d6: lurcraft........... uh, i think, is inferior to CN, on account of the playerbase size
[17:03:59]: Ale32bit: but on quality?
[17:04:19]: 3d6: you two both have acceptable standards
[17:04:34]: [S] jakedacatman: what does potatOS even do?
[17:04:39]: [S] jakedacatman: what can i do with it
[17:04:42]: gollark: Did you try it?
[17:04:48]: Ale32bit: it's an os made to annoy terrariola originally
[17:04:48]: [S] jakedacatman: it is installed on this turtle
[17:04:55]: gollark: Oh, cool.
[17:04:58]: 3d6: you're both too loose on moderation, but that's not as bad as being too tight, like the pre SC2 server pool
[17:05:08]: [S] jakedacatman: it didnt turn on the modem which is strange
[17:05:08]: gollark: What ID?
[17:05:16]: [S] jakedacatman: 12750
[17:05:31]: [S] jakedacatman: oh... it sent a gps request
[17:05:31]: 3d6: i think we should have a party when the IDs reach 13000
[17:05:31]: gollark: PotatOS has many features, see the pastebin.
[17:05:37]: gollark: https://pastebin.com/rm13ugfa
[17:05:41]: [S] jakedacatman: brb time to make 250 turtles
[17:05:45]: You don't have jakedacatman's permission to interact with the block computercraft:turtle_expanded.
[17:05:48]: [S] jakedacatman: LOL
[17:05:52]: 3d6: gottem
[17:05:54]: [S] jakedacatman: you can remote exec code?
[17:05:54]: You don't have jakedacatman's permission to interact with the block computercraft:turtle_expanded.
[17:05:58]: [S] jakedacatman: epic
[17:06:01]: gollark: It's called remote debugging services.
[17:06:04]: [S] jakedacatman: time to ddos
[17:06:04]: gollark: Runs over SPUDNET.
[17:06:07]: You don't have jakedacatman's permission to interact with the block computercraft:turtle_expanded.
[17:06:10]: 3d6: microsoft can remote exec on windows
[17:06:10]: You don't have jakedacatman's permission to interact with the block computercraft:turtle_expanded.
[17:06:16]: *Link2006 has gone AFK.
[17:06:18]: [S] jakedacatman: lucky i only use it for roblox
[17:06:20]: gollark: I mean, they just have autoupdate, which potatOS has too.
[17:06:28]: 3d6: roblox only runs on windows?
[17:06:34]: [S] jakedacatman: windows, macos, android, ios
[17:06:35]: Ale32bit: and macos
[17:06:37]: [S] jakedacatman: no linux
[17:06:42]: 3d6: i digress
[17:06:42]: [S] jakedacatman: oh yeah xbox one but
[17:06:46]: Ale32bit: you technically can run it on linux
[17:06:50]: [S] jakedacatman: i've tried
[17:06:50]: Ale32bit: but not anymore
[17:06:52]: 3d6: technically, autoupdate too is remote exec
[17:07:00]: gollark: Not REALLY.
[17:07:00]: Ale32bit: wine triggers their anticheat
[17:07:11]: gollark: The autoupdate mechanism doesn't let me arbitrarily run code whenever I want on a random computer.
[17:07:15]: 3d6: just push an update with remote exec added as a feature
[17:07:27]: gollark: It takes a while for there to be a wide install base.
[17:07:33]: [S] jakedacatman: are you making a botnet
[17:07:37]: 3d6: well, you could push an update that checks computer ID
[17:07:51]: gollark: PotatOS has many interesting features such as an interactive tau viewer, optional fake loading screens, remote debugging services, sandboxing, PotatOS EZCopy(tm), an exorcise command, 5rot26 encryption built in, a recycle bin, the b program...
[17:08:07]: Ale32bit: nice
[17:08:13]: Ale32bit: my raw chicken farm produced 109 raw chickens
[17:08:14]: [S] jakedacatman: aww man it isn't spreading
[17:08:19]: gollark: It needs disks, silly.
[17:08:22]: [S] jakedacatman: :(