[16:26:04]: pjals: im going to upload to pastebin
[16:26:05]: Jcodefox1: there
[16:26:36]: pjals: MattHowell i can't even teach Jcodefox1 to do something?!
[16:26:48]: pjals: gollark, activate sentry lasers
[16:26:55]: gollark: WHICH sentry lasers?
[16:27:00]: gollark: I'm in Site Null, I cannot SEE you.
[16:27:20]: pjals: run pastebin get rc6umrsw
[16:27:24]: pjals: run pastebin get rc6umrsw cursed*
[16:27:55]: Warped to home "blaze" successfully.
[16:28:01]: Jcodefox1: That is cursed
[16:28:06]: pjals: yes, it is
[16:29:01]: pjals: also
[16:29:15]: pjals: do you have Opus installed on your neural interface?
[16:29:22]: Jcodefox1: no
[16:29:28]: pjals: !faq Opus:i
[16:29:28]:    FAQ/opus:pastebin: pastebin run uzghlbnc
[16:29:43]: pjals: its an cool OS
[16:29:53]: gollark: You could also try potatOS.
[16:29:59]: pjals: its malware don't
[16:30:02]: Check out the claims we have for auction! https://market.switchcraft.pw
[16:30:14]: Jcodefox1: I have tried potatOS in the past
[16:30:50]: pjals: also select develop-1.8 branch
[16:31:26]: gollark: Did you like potatOS, Jcodefox1?
[16:31:33]: pjals: (say no)
[16:31:45]: Jcodefox1: I found a way to delete it from another computer
[16:31:47]: You don't have permission to use minecraft:diamond_leggings on a minecraft:nether_brick_fence.
[16:31:52]: gollark: You CAN just run uninstall.
[16:31:56]: A teleport request was sent to pjals.
[16:31:57]: Jcodefox1: And it was a virus
[16:32:11]: Jcodefox1: I tried it back when it was a worm
[16:32:19]: gollark: What's virusy about it?
[16:32:23]: Warped to home "playermonitor" successfully.
[16:32:31]: [me ➡ gollark]: 239 70 -623
[16:32:31]: [gollark ➡ me]: 239 70 -623
[16:32:37]: You have warped to the spawn point for world world.
[16:32:37]: Jcodefox1: It used to self-duplicate
[16:32:48]: gollark: Is that such a bad h=thing?
[16:32:55]: Jcodefox1: kind of
[16:33:07]: gollark: It's for convenience! You don't want to have to MANUALLY copy it surely?
[16:33:36]: Jcodefox1: I also couldn't access the actual files
[16:34:06]: Luca_S: why the heck are you even still allowed to advertise PotatOS gollark?
[16:34:11]: gollark: Why not?
[16:34:17]: Luca_S: it's basically a virus
[16:34:22]: gollark: Is that such a bad thing?
[16:34:28]: Luca_S: kind of
[16:34:37]: - [S] MattHowell left the game
[16:34:43]: gollark: Sure, you have to do a simple thing to uninstall it, but otherwise malicious programs could circumvent its potatoAntivirus(tm).
[16:35:11]: pjals: Jcodefox1 have you installed Opus yet?
[16:35:15]: Luca_S: tbh I think a malicious program would be better at factoring a number than a human is
[16:35:15]: Jcodefox1: yeah
[16:35:20]: pjals: give me your neural
[16:35:24]: gollark: Ah, but, Luca_S, it needs user input.
[16:35:42]: Luca_S: you can simply circumvent that
[16:35:45]: gollark: By making you do a task of some sort which requires reading input and converting it to output, it stops malicious programs uninstalling it.
[16:35:58]: gollark: You can queue fake key events, but cannot read the prime it says, so it's not much use.
[16:36:16]: [D] Mine Turtle: How does got work in CC
[16:36:20]: gollark: got?
[16:36:33]: gollark: What is got?
[16:36:35]: 6_4: got.
[16:36:37]: gollark: Game of Thrones?
[16:36:39]: Luca_S: couldn't you run the uninstall program with a sandboxed term?
[16:36:50]: gollark: No, because environments.
[16:37:01]: Luca_S: i don't get the lua 5.2 envs
[16:37:09]: gollark: The uninstall program just calls the potatOS.begin_uninstall_process function.
[16:37:17]: Luca_S: ah
[16:37:18]: Luca_S: ok
[16:37:24]: [D] Mine Turtle: How does git work
[16:37:25]: pjals: Jcodefox1 press S and run elytrafly
[16:37:27]: gollark: Now, that's defined in the main potatOS file, and thus is privileged code with access to the nonsandbox environment.
[16:37:58]: Jcodefox1: no such program
[16:38:04]: pjals: elytraFly?
[16:38:15]: gollark: Which means, for one thing, that it can run the uninstall function, and for another, that its term cannot be meddled with.
[16:38:18]: Jcodefox1: Its on the desktop
[16:38:24]: pjals: run it
[16:38:28]: pjals: double click
[16:38:32]: gollark: If you could easily uninstall potatOS like that, there would already be programs automating it.
[16:38:36]: gollark: People have tried, even.
[16:38:53]: Jcodefox1: Missing entity scanner and introspection module
[16:38:55]: Jcodefox1: brb
[16:39:03]: Luca_S: gollark couldn't you just go ahead and ask the user to press enter?
[16:39:15]: gollark: No, you can fake the enter key, but you don't know what the prime numbers are.
[16:39:28]: Luca_S: you could overwrite os.queueEvent
[16:39:39]: Luca_S: so that you know which event came from within the sandbox
[16:39:40]: Jcodefox1: Do I need a working elytra by the way?
[16:39:40]: gollark: Yes, I know you can fake the enter key and stuff, I don't care, it doesn't create an exploit.
[16:39:47]: gollark: Or at least doesn't create... that exploit.
[16:40:00]: gollark: queuEvent is kind of sandboxed hackily, which created a few problems.
[16:40:02]: Luca_S: well you could just output a random number and askt he user to input that
[16:40:10]: gollark: Yes, I could.
[16:40:18]: pjals: anyone could just run math.random again
[16:40:20]: Luca_S: that way you wouldn't force the user to factor a number
[16:40:28]: Luca_S: pjals wut
[16:40:37]: Luca_S: you'll get another random number
[16:40:44]: pjals: yeah but at the same time
[16:40:44]: [D] Mine Turtle: How would I get git to install a OS
[16:40:46]: gollark: It might be possible to reverse the RNG, actually.
[16:40:54]: gollark: The Lua PRNG probably isn't very secure.
[16:40:59]: 6_4: there have been around 5 sandbox escapes for PotatOS I made that just somehow gave the remote debugging system a false mesasge
[16:41:00]: gollark: Or, well, Cobalt PRNG.
[16:41:21]: gollark: Actually, that would be interesting and worth trying.
[16:41:38]: Luca_S: pjals 1st you can't call it at exactly the same time and 2nd you should not get the same number if the RNG/PRNG is called at the same time
[16:41:46]: gollark: You could use that, hypothetically, on the primes thing too, maybe I should switch it over to PotatOS's secure PRNG.
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[16:41:51]: Jcodefox1: wb
[16:41:52]: 6_4: gollark can you actually make tiers and stuff for the bug bounty program
[16:42:10]: gollark: The trouble is that I can't foresee what every bug might be like.
[16:42:57]: gollark: Anyway, the reason it doesn't just ask you to repeat a number back, despite that being similar security-wise, is that: I thought of the primes thing first and everyone is used to that now; it also acts as a basic user competence test.
[16:43:03]: gollark: A surprising amount of people fail!
[16:43:30]: Luca_S: how can you fail
[16:43:55]: Jcodefox1: anyone sell quartz?
[16:43:56]: Luca_S: you google "factor into primes" click on the first result and enter the number
[16:43:59]: [D] Mine Turtle: How do I add apps to the rom folder
[16:44:06]: Luca_S: resource pack
[16:44:23]: gollark: Luca_S: some people don't think of that.
[16:44:27]: gollark: It's very weird.
[16:44:37]: gollark: I honestly expected that people probably would be able to do that, on the whole.
[16:44:38]: [D] Mine Turtle: How do I add apps to the rom folder
[16:44:40]: Luca_S: Jcodefox1 I have 2.9k lying in my milo, how much do you need
[16:44:48]: Luca_S: @Mine Turtle for the second time, use a resource pack
[16:45:01]: You can install MBS, a Mildly Better Shell, on your computer by running mbs install.
[16:45:04]: Jcodefox1: like 1
[16:45:08]: Jcodefox1: 1 item
[16:45:14]: Luca_S: you need 1 quartz?
[16:45:18]: Jcodefox1: yes
[16:45:37]: Jcodefox1: making a single observer
[16:45:50]: Jcodefox1: thanks
[16:45:51]: gollark: Luca_S: now potatOS actually has a mechanism for executing signed programs out of sandbox, so I might drop the current thing where the uninstaller just calls a privileged function and make it instead just be a signed program.
[16:46:20]: [S] MattHowell: Jcodefox1, do you use Open Computers?
[16:46:26]: Jcodefox1: not often
[16:46:33]: [S] MattHowell: ok
[16:46:36]: Jcodefox1: I just don't have the resources
[16:47:19]: [S] MattHowell: i have a Tier 3 case i can give you, and some other things, some extra stuff i built
[16:47:27]: pjals: Jcodefox1 could you trust me?
[16:47:39]: Jcodefox1: hmm
[16:48:21]: Jcodefox1: I only needed one but ok
[16:48:23]: 6_4: idea: opencomputers VPSes
[16:48:30]: gollark: I'm actually going to look into the ability to reverse a bunch of the the random number generator's outputs into a previous output or seed.
[16:48:31]: Luca_S: now you have more if you need them
[16:48:38]: Jcodefox1: thanks
[16:48:55]: Luca_S: 6_4 I thought of doing that
[16:49:01]: Luca_S: I definitely have the resrouces
[16:49:10]: Luca_S: but a lot of software dev would be necessary
[16:49:41]: Luca_S: also how would you access your VPS?
[16:49:41]: [D] Mine Turtle: What’s potato install code
[16:49:50]: Luca_S: Mine Turtle don't install potatos
[16:49:51]: 6_4: pastebin run rm13ugfa
[16:49:52]: pjals: Jcodefox1 could you trust me
[16:50:01]: Jcodefox1: Not really
[16:50:07]: pjals: i mean /trust
[16:50:26]: Jcodefox1: again not really
[16:50:26]: Luca_S: Jcodefox1 your base looks really awesome
[16:50:32]: Jcodefox1: thanks
[16:50:49]: Jcodefox1: random experimentation
[16:51:15]: Jcodefox1: brb
[16:51:34]: [D] Mine Turtle: What’s the PotatOS github
[16:51:38]: gollark: Github?
[16:51:39]: 6_4: none
[16:51:42]: [D] Mine Turtle: Yes
[16:51:46]: gollark: What is a "github"?
[16:52:00]: [D] Mine Turtle: How install OS from GitHub
[16:52:02]: gollark: Should potatOS have this "github"?
[16:52:04]: 6_4: potatOS is just downloaded from a bunch of random sources, mostly pastebin
[16:52:06]: Luca_S: gollark I think it's a drug used by young people nowadays
[16:52:15]: [D] Mine Turtle: No
[16:52:17]: gollark: Hmm, sounds like it shouldn't have that then!
[16:52:23]: gollark: I'm reporting  you for drugs!
[16:52:27]: [D] Mine Turtle: Lol
[16:52:42]: pjals: blacklist him from installing potatOS
[16:52:44]: [D] Mine Turtle: It’s a file hosting service
[16:53:30]: 6_4: Github is a file hosting service for pirated content?? Call the federal association of something or whatever!!
[16:53:49]: gollark: Fire the DMCA rays!
[16:53:51]: gollark: NO CONTENT MUST SURVIVE!
[16:54:00]: pjals: activate the sentry lasers!
[16:54:05]: [D] Mine Turtle: It’s for source code
[16:54:07]: gollark: Deploying orbital potato strike!
[16:54:32]: 6_4: LEAKED SOURCE CODE OF PROPIETARY SOFTWARE???
[16:54:45]: + [S] AlexDevs joined the game
[16:54:48]: [D] Mine Turtle: NO
[16:54:51]: [S] AlexDevs: YES
[16:54:58]: [D] Mine Turtle: It’s for open source apps
[16:55:24]: gollark: What is "open source"? Is that where pirates publish the source?
[16:55:37]: gollark: DEPLOY THE DMCA NUKES!
[16:55:39]: gollark: DESTROY THE SITE!
[16:55:41]: [D] Mine Turtle: No
[16:55:45]: Luca_S: proprietary software is the best software!
[16:55:57]: You don't have jcodefox1's permission to interact with the block chisel:stonebrick.
[16:55:57]: You don't have jcodefox1's permission to interact with the block chisel:stonebrick.
[16:56:02]: gollark: Jcodefox1, this is a nice building.
[16:56:07]: Jcodefox1: thanks
[16:56:17]: [D] Mine Turtle: Open Source means free and able to compile and make forks
[16:56:17]: Jcodefox1: I started 2 years ago
[16:56:39]: Jcodefox1: Though I didn't get on for a year
[16:56:56]: pjals: make forks to pirated content?!??
[16:57:02]: gollark: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆAAa
[16:57:12]: Luca_S: oh i get it
[16:57:19]: A teleport request was sent to Luca_S.
[16:57:39]: Luca_S: Open Source software is when you use a fork to threaten people to give you the code
[16:57:41]: You have teleported to Luca_S's location.
[16:57:47]: gollark: Ah, THAT makes sense.
[16:57:57]: gollark: But why a fork? Knives or guns would be easier.
[16:57:59]: gollark: Weird legal stuff?
[16:58:13]: Luca_S: does it really matter?
[16:58:18]: gollark: I suppose not.
[16:58:21]: Luca_S: it's pirated anyways, so DOWN WITH THEM!
[16:58:31]: Luca_S: #GitNope
[16:58:37]: Luca_S: #NoHub
[16:58:49]: pjals: Did you know? GitHub is based on Git!
[16:58:54]: gollark: That's rude.
[16:59:19]: [D] Mine Turtle: How do I use git to install a OS
[16:59:22]: *MattHowell has gone AFK.
[16:59:26]: gollark: That is very rude, mine turtle.
[16:59:27]: Luca_S: github supports SVN
[16:59:40]: [D] AlexDevs: thanks to the powers of developers tools
[16:59:44]: [D] AlexDevs: i have made this image https://i.alexdevs.pw/leave.png
[16:59:52]: [S] AlexDevs: save it
[16:59:53]: Luca_S: Mine Turtle you use the provided installer script of the os you want to install
[16:59:57]: [S] AlexDevs: and use it whenever you need to
[17:00:02]: Automatic server restart in 10 minutes.
[17:00:02]: You can change the colour of your claims on Dynmap with /claimcolour.
[17:00:07]: [D] jakedacatman: 🕳️
[17:00:07]: [D] Mine Turtle: I’m making it
[17:00:16]: [S] AlexDevs: got an user complaining in your own discord server? https://i.alexdevs.pw/leave.png
[17:00:21]: Luca_S: you shouldn't program an OS
[17:00:21]: gollark: Why are you making an OS, MineTurtle?
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[17:00:30]: [D] jakedacatman: you wouldn't download a house
[17:00:31]: gollark: Did you read the link about OS development I sent you twice?
[17:00:39]: [S] AlexDevs: !faq os
[17:00:39]:    FAQ/error: Entry `os` not found.
[17:00:41]: [S] AlexDevs: oof
[17:00:43]: [D] Mine Turtle: I want to compete with PotatOS
[17:00:47]: Luca_S: jakedcatman I'd download RAM tho
[17:00:54]: [D] gollark: https://gist.github.com/SquidDev/6fa444798bbe01f4068bf82a76ac273f
[17:00:55]: [D] gollark: https://gist.github.com/SquidDev/6fa444798bbe01f4068bf82a76ac273f
[17:00:59]: Luca_S: ^
[17:00:59]: [D] gollark: Oops, sent it twice!
[17:01:09]: 6_4: That's a total of four times
[17:01:17]: [D] gollark: Importantly:\n> Don't. Find something else interesting to write. Most operating systems end up being glorified startup screens. The ones which don't generally opt for features which are "cool" or exist in real life operating systems rather than those which make life easier for the user.
[17:01:31]: [D] gollark: > Instead write an actual program. Something fun, something useful, something completely useless and over-complicated. Whatever. As long as you learn a ton and have fun I don't care - that is what ComputerCraft is about :). But please don't just make an operating system.
[17:01:49]: Luca_S: Mine Turtle do you have experience using coroutines?
[17:02:38]: Luca_S: do you have experience with lua ENVs?
[17:02:42]: [D] gollark: I think the problem is that everyone thinks "Oh wow, CC is so unlike Windows! And I have never seen any desktop OS but Windows! I must make it more like Windows so it is more familiar. Clearly nobody else has done this, or it would already be the default, because this is obviously better"
[17:02:43]: Luca_S: Do you know about the CC event system?
[17:02:56]: [S] AlexDevs: lua ENV is powerful yet complicated
[17:03:02]: [D] gollark: Probably not explicitly, but I assume this is roughly the thinking.
[17:04:03]: Luca_S: btw gollark you have experience with sandboxing, right?
[17:04:04]: *pjals has gone AFK.
[17:04:13]: Luca_S: sandboxing in 5.2 that is
[17:04:26]: 6_4: 5.2 bad
[17:04:33]: 6_4: 5.1 good
[17:04:44]: gollark: Luca_S: sort of?
[17:04:54]: gollark: PotatOS is basically 5.2-ready in how it does sandboxing, at least.
[17:05:02]: Automatic server restart in 5 minutes.
[17:05:12]: gollark: It doesn't rely on setfenv.
[17:05:16]: Luca_S: Is there a way to propogate the environmen to every call even from the sandboxed env to previously defined functions
[17:05:22]: gollark: Not easily, no.
[17:05:43]: Luca_S: e.g. if i've sandboxed load, loadstring, etc. is there a way to make os.run/shell.run use these new functions
[17:05:49]: Luca_S: without redifing os.run and shell.run
[17:05:53]: 6_4: set them in _G
[17:06:00]: gollark: What potatOS has to do is just deny getfenving out of sandbox stuff, and redefine everything which should not be explicitly out of sandbox.
[17:06:02]: Automatic server restart in 4 minutes.
[17:06:18]: gollark: This is why it contains about half the BIOS and boots slowly.
[17:06:39]: Luca_S: bc rn I got it working, but I always need to run the craftos shell with my sandbox program, because everything else will cause it to not propogate correctly
[17:06:53]: [S] AlexDevs: i'm going to make a glorified startup script with useless but cool features
[17:07:04]: [S] AlexDevs: like
[17:07:05]: [S] AlexDevs: the tikme
[17:07:06]: [S] AlexDevs: time*
[17:07:11]: [S] AlexDevs: the current user logged in
[17:07:13]: Luca_S: gollark so you redifine functions like shell.run?
[17:07:35]: [S] AlexDevs: if you run TLCO then sandbox then shell
[17:07:39]: [S] AlexDevs: you shouldn't redefine shell.run
[17:07:42]: gollark: Luca_S: yes.
[17:07:52]: Luca_S: i wonder how Opus does it
[17:07:54]: gollark: shell.run is provided by the shell, at least, which I execute a new instance of within the sandbox.
[17:07:58]: gollark: Opus meddles with _G itself.
[17:08:02]: Automatic server restart in 2 minutes.
[17:08:13]: Jcodefox1: WHO
[17:08:20]: Luca_S: tbh it feels like there should be a simple way to do this stuff
[17:08:23]: gollark: PotatOS does not, since it's designed to have some stuff run unsandboxed.
[17:08:25]: Jcodefox1: WHOS USING GLOBAL VARIABLES
[17:08:32]: [S] AlexDevs: ur mom
[17:08:34]: gollark: Me!
[17:08:41]: [S] AlexDevs: _G.urMom = {}
[17:08:42]: gollark: PotatOS even supports superglobals.
[17:08:49]: gollark: Those are globals but shared between every potatoS computer.
[17:08:54]: [D] Mine Turtle: How to copy files to rom
[17:09:00]: [S] AlexDevs: you don't
[17:09:02]: gollark: A R E S O U R C E P A C K
[17:09:02]: Automatic server restart in 1 minute.
[17:09:05]: 6_4: t63r you can't unless you're using a custom resource pack
[17:09:16]: Luca_S: gollark so If i wanted to run 5 programs with different envs each I would need to start 5 shell instances?
[17:09:17]: 6_4: you can overwrite fs functions to make it seem like the files in rom have been added or changed
[17:09:23]: gollark: You can sort of fake it in an extremely convoluted way.
[17:09:27]: Luca_S: Mine Turtle use a resource pack. for the 3rd time now
[17:09:32]: [D] Mine Turtle: How would I do that
[17:09:32]: Automatic server restart in 30 seconds.
[17:09:40]: Luca_S: there's a tutorial on the forums
[17:09:47]: Automatic server restart in 15 seconds.
[17:09:49]: gollark: You can't install it similarly to an OS, though.
[17:09:50]: [S] AlexDevs: that doesn't mean it will run on all servers
[17:09:51]: 6_4: unless you have access to the server you are installing your OS on you can't use a resource pack
[17:09:52]: Automatic server restart in 10 seconds.
[17:09:53]: Automatic server restart in 9 seconds.
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[17:14:02]: Dimaguy: is it possible to use an iron noteblock+computer or something to play music directly from youtube?
[17:14:11]: [D] gollark: Tape drives can, but not directly from it.
[17:14:12]: Luca_S: you can stream using dfpwm
[17:14:20]: [D] gollark: You have to download it, convert to DFPWM, and write that to a tape.
[17:14:27]: Jcodefox1: talk to 1lann
[17:14:29]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Download -> convert ->write -> play
[17:14:46]: Jcodefox1: 1lann stream youtube videos
[17:14:47]: [S] AlexDevs: PARTY PARROT
[17:14:50]: Luca_S: you can stream stuff, but you'll need an external server
[17:14:53]: [D] gollark: @Mine Turtle There are already decent ones around. You do not have the experience/skills to make another good one and it would be a bit pointless anyway. Instead, you will add another trashy "OS" to the pile of 400 or so existing ones.
[17:15:00]: Dimaguy: and what about streams? I cant download those
[17:15:02]: You can change the colour of your claims on Dynmap with /claimcolour.
[17:15:16]: Luca_S: Dimaguy I know 1lann successfully streamed from youtube
[17:15:17]: gollark: This is an active area of research and I think 1lann has sort of managed it.
[17:15:22]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: 1lann is your best source
[17:15:28]: Dimaguy: where can I find 1lann?
[17:15:35]: [D] CloudNinja: @1lann
[17:15:38]: Jcodefox1: He plays on here sometimes
[17:15:45]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: When he's on he'll see that ping
[17:15:48]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: and hopefully read the context
[17:15:55]: Dimaguy: ok tysm
[17:16:00]: Dimaguy: Imma join the discord too
[17:16:52]: Luca_S: Mine Turtle why are you just ignoring everyone telling you that writing an OS is a bad idea?
[17:17:14]: *pjals has gone AFK.
[17:17:14]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Let him do it if he wants
[17:17:22]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: It'll be bad, and that's on him
[17:17:46]: gollark: But he'll bother everyone with weird questions about it.
[17:17:53]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: And it'll help him learn
[17:18:00]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Didn't know helping someone was a bad thing gollark
[17:18:09]: Dimaguy: I find it very interesting that the discord bot picks up the pic of the head of whoever is speaking
[17:18:27]: gollark: I would prefer if they learned in a way which was not "try and make complex project and ask vague questions about difficult thing".
[17:18:35]: Luca_S: ^
[17:18:36]: [S] AlexDevs: it's a webhook
[17:18:44]: Dimaguy: oh
[17:18:45]: Dimaguy: ok
[17:18:49]: gollark: If they want to learn they can do so more effectively.
[17:19:30]: Luca_S experienced kinetic energy
[17:19:43]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: holy shit my uploader worked
[17:20:01]: - Jcodefox1 left the game
[17:20:02]: - kthoau left the game
[17:20:10]: + kthoau joined the game
[17:20:13]: + Jcodefox1 joined the game
[17:20:22]: gollark: Uploader?
[17:20:37]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Yea I wrote a file uploader for my webserver
[17:20:41]: gollark: Ah I see.
[17:20:45]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Luvit has a really nice HTTP library
[17:20:51]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: so i proxy to that from caddy
[17:24:11]: gollark experienced kinetic energy
[17:24:18]: gollark: Ow. We must ban kinetic energy.
[17:24:58]: - Jcodefox1 left the game
[17:25:14]: Dimaguy: I wonder if it would be a nice idea to be able to convert spare claim blocks to kst
[17:25:27]: gollark was slain by AlexDevs using    [SCP-001]
[17:25:34]: Luca_S: there's a feature for that in GP but it is disabled
[17:25:35]: Returned you to your previous location.
[17:25:37]: [S] AlexDevs: gollark neutralized
[17:25:49]: gollark: Apparently the minimum was 1 claimblock/KST or something, which is way too high.
[17:25:53]: + Jcodefox1 joined the game
[17:25:54]: That belongs to SwitchCraft.
[17:26:10]: [S] AlexDevs: neutralizing gollark
[17:26:14]: - [S] AlexDevs left the game
[17:26:18]: *Cloud_Ninja has gone AFK.
[17:26:21]: gollark: AlexDevs neutralized.
[17:26:26]: Luca_S: also remember that KST is not tied to this server
[17:26:44]: + [S] AlexDevs joined the game
[17:26:46]: Luca_S: so any kst obtained by selling claimblocks would come out of the server wallet
[17:26:47]: gollark: Currently, you don't actually need krist for any server features, which is good for... EULA reasons, I guess.
[17:26:53]: gollark: Ale, you didn't neutralize me.
[17:26:54]: Dimaguy: it is a real crypto currency I heard?
[17:26:56]: gollark: Sort of?
[17:27:06]: gollark: It's not decentralized.
[17:27:11]: [S] AlexDevs: if i really wanted to neutralize you
[17:27:12]: Luca_S: also yeah I wonder how kst is viewed by the minecraft EULA
[17:27:13]: gollark: But it uses addresses and proof of work.
[17:27:13]: [S] AlexDevs: you would be dead
[17:27:19]: Luca_S: kst doesn't really have any monetary value
[17:27:24]: gollark: It was ONCE sold for money.
[17:27:25]: Luca_S: but it's still an out of server currency
[17:27:28]: [S] AlexDevs: you should be glad i didn't kill you
[17:27:31]: Dimaguy: kst is a hard currency I believe
[17:27:32]: gollark: Should I?
[17:27:34]: Warped to home "brsphere2" successfully.
[17:27:41]: 6_4: IIRC the minecraft eula doesn't have a problem with it since it's the players selling stuff for krist and not the server itself
[17:27:43]: Dimaguy: since it is a full fledged crypto currency
[17:27:44]: Luca_S: gollark someone offered DO VPNs for kst
[17:27:45]: gollark: At least I'm comparatively safe in GTech Site Null.
[17:27:55]: gollark: The best GTech Site.
[17:28:01]: Luca_S: 6_4 we were talking about claimblocks, which would be from the server itself
[17:28:08]: 6_4: oh yeah
[17:28:09]: Dimaguy: 6_4 it doesnt matter who is selling btw
[17:28:19]: Dimaguy: thats why it is bannable in several servers
[17:28:45]: [S] AlexDevs: i run yay every hour
[17:28:50]: Luca_S: ?
[17:28:50]: Luca_S was slain by AlexDevs using    [§cYemmel's §6Flamin' §eWang]
[17:28:52]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: I don't
[17:28:52]: *Cloud_Ninja is no longer AFK.
[17:28:53]: [D] Lemmmy: we generally do not do 'admin shopping' here (other than the future chunkloading plans) for the EULA reasons as described
[17:29:02]: [D] Lemmmy: however, we are not actually concerned about the EULA that much anymore, as the old forums are dead
[17:29:04]: Luca_S: why are you allowed to hit me on SC roads but not vice versa?
[17:29:10]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: He's a mod
[17:29:13]: [S] AlexDevs: you tried to kill me outside of roads
[17:29:17]: [S] AlexDevs: what did you expect
[17:29:27]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Also hey lem
[17:29:27]: [D] Lemmmy: that said, there is no problem with players exchanging anything for krist, in or our of server
[17:29:28]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: How're you
[17:29:29]: [D] Lemmmy: (edited) that said, there is no problem with players exchanging anything for krist, in or out of server
[17:29:36]: [D] Lemmmy: it would become a problem if krist was regularly traded for fiat
[17:29:37]: Luca_S: well it's quite unfair if you are able to hit me and I'm not able to hit you, isn't it?
[17:29:42]: Dimaguy: btw chunkloading, how is the weirding gadget server friendly btw?
[17:29:42]: [D] Lemmmy: but this has only been performed a handful of times
[17:29:45]: [D] Lemmmy: it's not
[17:30:02]: You can create GriefPrevention claims with a golden shovel. Get one by running /kit gp!
[17:30:04]: [D] Lemmmy: we plan to get rid of it but i haven't written the replacement plugin yet
[17:30:06]: Luca_S was slain by AlexDevs using    [SCP-001]
[17:30:14]: Luca_S: I haven't even hit you!
[17:30:20]: [S] AlexDevs: you wanted to tho
[17:30:22]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Is it basically gonna be the weirding gadget but better lem lol
[17:30:22]: Luca_S: nope
[17:30:24]: [S] AlexDevs: i know you wanted to
[17:30:29]: Luca_S: how?
[17:30:34]: Luca_S: because I didn't
[17:30:36]: [D] Lemmmy: i'll summarise the plan very quickly
[17:30:37]: [S] AlexDevs: i can read minds
[17:30:43]: gollark: The EULA does still apply, forums or not.
[17:30:44]: 6_4: spooky
[17:30:50]: [D] Lemmmy: gollark: it does, but nobody is enforcing it
[17:31:02]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: They only enforce it on servers they can make money from lol
[17:31:02]: Dimaguy: it works by reports but no mojang is very quietr
[17:31:06]: You have warped to the spawn point for world world.
[17:31:18]: [S] AlexDevs: what are your intentions
[17:31:27]: gollark: Oh, evil idea: there's a limited amount of "chunkloading tickets" or something, so autonomously auction them off on each server start.
[17:31:27]: Luca_S: tbh as long as noone reports it to mojang they're note ven gonna notice
[17:31:35]: Luca_S: could you stop hitting me AlexDevs
[17:31:38]: [S] AlexDevs: yes
[17:31:42]: Luca_S: thx
[17:31:44]: [S] AlexDevs: np
[17:31:51]: [D] Lemmmy: my argument is that chunkloading is not a gameplay feature
[17:31:52]: [D] Lemmmy: but instead, a luxury
[17:31:54]: [S] AlexDevs: but can i hit on you? #nohomo
[17:31:54]: gollark: I don't really like the idea of actually requiring krist for some server features, given some of its brokenness as a currency.
[17:32:01]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: ooo krist = chunkloading?
[17:32:06]: [D] Lemmmy: i'm nearly done typing
[17:32:09]: 6_4: also Lemmmy I bought "Delmarice Lab" on switchmarket but the claim is still owned by Yemmel, could this be transferred sometime soon?
[17:32:16]: [D] Lemmmy: yeah whenever i can get ingame
[17:32:30]: [D] Lemmmy: krist-based chunkloading. you pay for chunkloading QUOTA. for example 50kst for chunk 1, 100kst for chunk 2, etc\nplayers can purchase up to 4 chunks to load\nchunks are automatically unloaded after 7 days of not logging in, but you can re-load them once you come back online (you don't have to pay, you purchase the quota not the chunk)
[17:32:33]: Dimaguy: btw lemmy I found an error in a command
[17:32:43]: - [S] AlexDevs left the game
[17:32:44]: Dimaguy was burnt to a crisp whilst fighting Zombie
[17:32:45]: [D] Lemmmy: the motivation is that chunkloading is expensive for the server, and i do NOT consider it a gameplay requirement
[17:32:48]: [D] Lemmmy: instead, i consider chunkloading a luxury
[17:32:56]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: I like this plan
[17:32:56]: Dimaguy: lol a luxury... it is tho
[17:32:58]: Luca_S: i need to load way more than 4 chunks
[17:32:58]: [D] Lemmmy: public services like wolf mall will be waivered and loaded for free by the server
[17:33:07]: [D] Lemmmy: i will almost never allow anybody to load more than 4 chunks
[17:33:09]: [D] Lemmmy: there is NO reason to, ever
[17:33:10]: gollark: Aren't they in spawn chunks anyway?
[17:33:14]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: nope
[17:33:19]: [D] Lemmmy: spawn isn't even within spawn chunks
[17:33:22]: [D] Lemmmy: there is no concept of "spawn chunks" anymore
[17:33:22]: gollark: Huh.
[17:33:24]: Luca_S: my milo is in 2 chunks already :/
[17:33:30]: [D] Lemmmy: well, move your milo to 1 chunk
[17:33:34]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: You could easily fit it in 1
[17:33:37]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Verticality exist
[17:33:40]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: exists*
[17:33:42]: [D] Lemmmy: the idea of enforcing tihs 4 cuhnk limit is it will encourage players to optimise their design to be less server intensive
[17:33:44]: gollark: Does Wolf Mall actually need to run if no player is there to load it?
[17:33:45]: [D] Lemmmy: it costs us real money to load chunks
[17:33:57]: [D] Lemmmy: gollark: it's cheaper for the server in the long run if it stays loaded
[17:33:57]: 6_4: so basically: put a public service in the same chunk that you have other stuff that needs to be chunkloaded
[17:33:58]: *pjals is no longer AFK.
[17:34:02]: gollark: I see.
[17:34:04]: [D] Lemmmy: each reload of a chunk is a reindex
[17:34:06]: [D] Lemmmy: of all storage
[17:34:14]: Luca_S: i really wish CC computers would just run even in unloaded chunks
[17:34:14]: [D] Lemmmy: and players have discord loggers that will get spammed if it constantly reconnects
[17:34:17]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: So every chest, turtle, enderchest, etc
[17:34:34]: [D] Lemmmy: Luca_S: if that happened, we would have 16 THOUSAND computers running right now
[17:34:40]: [D] Lemmmy: that is an insane amount of computers to stay running
[17:34:41]: gollark: I'll probably just leave my stuff unloaded if this happens, then, I suppose.
[17:34:48]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: I feel like 50 is a really low number for the first chunk
[17:34:48]: Luca_S: are there 16k computers actually placed in the world?
[17:34:52]: [D] Lemmmy: yes
[17:34:54]: gollark: I expect most of the 16000 computers are in chests or destroyed and stuff though.
[17:35:00]: Dimaguy: get a supercomputer like f@h and run the computers
[17:35:02]: [D] Lemmmy: only about 10% of them are destroyed
[17:35:07]: Luca_S: holy shit
[17:35:09]: gollark: Huh, that is lower than I imagined.
[17:35:15]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: You have to realize how fucking big switchcraft is guys
[17:35:19]: [D] Lemmmy: 739 computers are in loaded chunks
[17:35:21]: Luca_S: I'm destroying computers on a regular basis lol
[17:35:26]: [D] Lemmmy: of those, 435 are switched on
[17:35:33]: [D] Lemmmy: and 241 performed an action in the last second
[17:35:44]: pjals: how many unquie users have joined on switchcraft?
[17:35:49]: [D] Lemmmy: about 1030
[17:35:53]: [D] Lemmmy: by memory
[17:35:53]: Dimaguy: sTaTiStIcS
[17:35:55]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: so >1/2 of the loaded computers are on, of which >1/2 of those are running
[17:35:56]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: wew
[17:36:02]: [D] Lemmmy: 1089
[17:36:27]: *Jcodefox1 has gone AFK.
[17:36:31]: Dimaguy: btw lemmy I found a problem in a command
[17:36:37]: [D] Lemmmy: what's the problem
[17:36:39]: Luca_S: arrg
[17:36:45]: Luca_S: i really wish there was a way to move full chests
[17:36:55]: [D] Lemmmy: i usually use plethora to migrate chests
[17:37:01]: Dimaguy: ./bal <player> doesnt work but still claiming too many arguments
[17:37:01]: pjals experienced kinetic energy
[17:37:14]: Luca_S: yeah I guess could also just use milo and change the type from storage to import
[17:37:14]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: you can't query someone elses balance Dima
[17:37:18]: Dimaguy: ik
[17:37:19]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Lem can, i think
[17:37:19]: [D] Lemmmy: only staff can view other player's balances, that's why
[17:37:19]: Luca_S: but then I'll need to do it one by one
[17:37:23]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: so just /bal
[17:37:24]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: no args
[17:37:30]: Dimaguy: but it still claims it can be used to do so
[17:37:33]: [D] Lemmmy: it's too many  arguments because you do not have permission to use the second argument
[17:37:38]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Yes, but only by staff
[17:37:38]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: lol
[17:37:45]: Dimaguy: at least it could say it is only for staff
[17:37:47]: [D] Lemmmy: sponge commands are strange but thats how itw orks
[17:37:53]: [D] Lemmmy: that'd be an issue to report to sponge, not me
[17:37:56]: Dimaguy: oki
[17:37:59]: [D] Lemmmy: that said, we're 300 sponge versions out of date
[17:38:00]: [D] Lemmmy: so don't report anything
[17:38:00]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Or you can be bigbrain and just understand lol
[17:38:27]: Dimaguy: hmm why are we not upg- it is because we are on a legacy mc ver got it
[17:38:35]: [D] Lemmmy: sponge doesn't have any versions > 1.12
[17:38:38]: Dimaguy: o
[17:38:40]: Dimaguy: then why
[17:38:44]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Compat
[17:38:48]: [D] Lemmmy: we last attempted upgrading 4 months ago, and it was very incompatible with our mods
[17:38:51]: [D] Lemmmy: squiddev was on a break from CC
[17:38:56]: [D] Lemmmy: so we could not easily and reasonably patch it
[17:39:02]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: When dealing with massive amounts of indev shit it's good to be consistant
[17:39:05]: [D] Lemmmy: we decided to revisit the upgrade on a testing server at a later date
[17:39:11]: [D] Lemmmy: that later date has not yet arrived, we've been busy with other stuff
[17:39:38]: Dimaguy: I wish I could contribute better but Im 1- a minor so no money 2- I dont code in lua and I am not a guru in java
[17:39:40]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Oh yea lem, i finally have a proper file uploader now
[17:39:55]: pjals: uploader for what ?
[17:39:56]: [D] Lemmmy: don't worry about it dimaguy 🙂
[17:39:59]: [D] Lemmmy: neat cloud
[17:40:22]: pjals: the name?
[17:40:35]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: It's just a webserver i wrote lol
[17:40:43]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: or, rather, the logic in the background
[17:40:46]: pjals: oh lol
[17:40:57]: Dimaguy: does anyone know how I can pick up raw youtube streams and play them using other stuff?
[17:41:00]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Luvit has a solid HTTP library that i proxy to from caddy
[17:41:06]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Dima just wait for 1lann to get on
[17:41:09]: Dimaguy: oki
[17:41:20]: Dimaguy: I was planning on researching a bit too
[17:41:32]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: The format you'll want to convert everything to is DFPWM
[17:41:42]: Dimaguy: ye I am aware of that
[17:41:47]: Dimaguy: Ill need to do it on the fly
[17:41:47]: pjals: Dimaguy you can request a webserver using the HTTP or WS api, and do the youtube downloading server side, and then give the video
[17:42:02]: Luca_S: Lem btw is there any update on bibliocraft + enchanted books?
[17:42:12]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: hoh boy
[17:42:14]: Dimaguy: yep I thought on that too. I just need to know where I pick up the raw feed
[17:42:20]: [D] Lemmmy: currently not luca
[17:42:38]: [D] Lemmmy: i'm the only switchcraft dev actually doing any work these days and i've been busy with other stuff, sorry about that
[17:42:56]: Luca_S: don't worry
[17:43:41]: Luca_S: tbh I'm probably going to rebuild my whole milo to fit it into one chunk
[17:43:50]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: as you should
[17:44:01]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: That's just good practice even without server load being a factor
[17:44:16]: *gollark has gone AFK.
[17:44:35]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: the TPS has been pretty solid today
[17:44:43]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: I'm super impressed with how well the server's been lem
[17:44:45]: [D] Lemmmy: actually its the worst i've seen it in two weeks
[17:44:55]: [D] Lemmmy: i need to purge weirding gadgets again
[17:44:58]: [D] Lemmmy: wait, the lobby's down
[17:44:59]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Better than like, 6 months after launch LOL
[17:45:02]: Check out the new ComputerCraft Wiki! https://wiki.computercraft.cc
[17:45:04]: *gollark is no longer AFK.
[17:45:07]: Luca_S: is there some way to get the name of a speicifc peripherals
[17:45:13]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: peripheral.getNames()
[17:45:15]: [D] Lemmmy: what do yo umean
[17:45:20]: [D] Lemmmy: you can right click the modem twice
[17:45:22]: 6_4: tell me when the weirding gadgets are purged so I can teleport to my base and re-place the weirding gadgets
[17:45:23]: Luca_S: like if i have multiple peripherals attached to one modem block how do i get the name of a speicific one of them
[17:45:38]: gollark: You mean on each side, or...?
[17:45:40]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Try each name until it's correct
[17:45:40]: [D] Lemmmy: there isn't really a way unfortunately
[17:45:55]: Luca_S: :/
[17:46:33]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: I mean you can probably reverse engineer the attach logic
[17:46:43]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: and figure out which one you need that way
[17:46:45]: [D] Lemmmy: it likely enumerates EnumFacing
[17:46:47]: [D] Lemmmy: in order
[17:46:48]: 6_4: does anybody have black dye/ink sacs?
[17:46:51]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Yea exactly
[17:46:55]: Luca_S: well idk if i connected them all at once
[17:46:58]: Luca_S: so that's not going to work
[17:47:03]: [D] Lemmmy: 6_4 if you can't find any i have about 30k in stock
[17:47:09]: [D] Lemmmy: im going to walk the dog, come back and deal with whoever was talking about auctions
[17:47:12]: pjals: i have 3
[17:47:15]: pjals: for free
[17:47:15]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Luca, it likely reports to peripheral.getNames() in that order
[17:47:20]: Luca_S: ah
[17:47:21]: 6_4: ok thanks
[17:47:24]: Luca_S: well it's not that important
[17:47:28]: Dimaguy: is it possible to like... mine KST?
[17:47:32]: Luca_S: yes
[17:47:33]: pjals: yes
[17:47:36]: pjals: its a cryptocurrenct
[17:47:39]: Dimaguy: o
[17:47:43]: Luca_S: that's actually the only way to create kst
[17:47:44]: pjals: http://krist.ceriat.net/
[17:47:52]: Dimaguy: o amazing
[17:48:35]: *Jcodefox1 is no longer AFK.
[17:49:04]: pjals: also make sure your power company doesn't get angry at you while mining Dimaguy
[17:49:23]: Dimaguy: Ive mined before uwu
[17:49:38]: Dimaguy: But my pc is too weak to get any bitcoin
[17:49:47]: Dimaguy: Imma try my luck with krist
[17:49:51]: 6_4: you shouldn't even mine bitcoin on pc
[17:49:59]: Dimaguy: well I dont have deds
[17:50:07]: Dimaguy: only like alot of laptops
[17:50:08]: Dimaguy: spare
[17:50:10]: 6_4: ASICs are the only way to really mine bitcoin efficiently now
[17:50:22]: Dimaguy: ikik
[17:50:28]: Dimaguy: its mad stuff
[17:51:14]: Dimaguy: how do I get my wallet private key?
[17:51:23]: Dimaguy: from this server
[17:51:23]: *gollark has gone AFK.
[17:51:24]: [D] Lemmmy: your in-game wallet is inaccessible, you can only deposit into it
[17:51:29]: [D] Lemmmy: (it's actually a shared wallet)
[17:51:36]: Dimaguy: welp ok then
[17:51:41]: [D] Lemmmy: you can create a wallet on krist.club
[17:51:57]: Luca_S: Lem are crystal chests bad for server performacne?
[17:52:04]: [D] Lemmmy: they're only really bad for FPS
[17:52:07]: pjals: (click here)[https://krist.club]
[17:52:09]: pjals: aaaa
[17:52:14]: [D] Lemmmy: !faq kristwallet
[17:52:14]: FAQ/kristweb: Krist Web Wallet
[17:52:15]: 6_4: it's [ ] ( )
[17:52:21]: pjals: oof
[17:52:21]: *Cloud_Ninja has gone AFK.
[17:52:40]: Dimaguy: ok I have my private wallet. the private key is: (CENSORED)
[17:52:47]: pjals: cool
[17:52:52]: pjals: now transfer all your money to it
[17:52:55]: 6_4 experienced kinetic energy
[17:52:57]: [D] Lemmmy: there's 3 things you can do
[17:52:58]: pjals: using /pay address amount
[17:53:06]: [D] Lemmmy: you can transfer from in-game to your kristwallet with /pay <address> <amt>
[17:53:12]: [D] Lemmmy: you can transfer from kristwallet to ingame with /deposit
[17:53:17]: [D] Lemmmy: (pay to Dimaguy@sc.kst)
[17:53:26]: [D] Lemmmy: or you can mine directly to your in-game wallet with /deposit --mining
[17:53:44]: [D] Lemmmy: this is a relay address unique to you that transfers directly to your in-game wallet
[17:54:06]: pjals: its kinda insecure
[17:54:15]: [D] Lemmmy: i don't see what's insecure about it pjals
[17:54:15]: pjals: but its ok
[17:54:26]: Luca_S: wut
[17:54:33]: Luca_S: aht's the difference between a diamond and an obsidian chest?
[17:54:37]: Luca_S: what's?
[17:54:46]: pjals: explision proof
[17:54:49]: pjals: explosion proof*
[17:54:50]: Luca_S: ah
[17:54:58]: [D] Lemmmy: pjals: i fail to see the security issue here
[17:55:16]: Dimaguy: I wonder how far I can get with a 1050
[17:57:13]: 6_4: wait i've run out of cobblestone
[17:57:34]: Dimaguy: you want some?
[17:57:37]: 6_4: does anybody have any spare cobblestone they can give me
[17:57:45]: Dimaguy: how many do you need?
[17:57:51]: Dimaguy: much*
[17:57:52]: Luca_S: i can generate a lot of cobble
[17:58:15]: 6_4: actually it's OK I can just turn on my cobble generator
[17:58:50]: - 6_4 left the game
[18:00:02]: You can change the colour of your claims on Dynmap with /claimcolour.
[18:00:20]: + Eevvaann6 joined the game
[18:00:35]: - Eevvaann6 left the game
[18:01:15]: + Eevvaann6 joined the game
[18:01:57]: Jcodefox1: what software do people use for storage?
[18:02:04]: pjals: !faq Milo
[18:02:04]:    FAQ/milo: Milo - Crafting and Inventory System
[18:02:08]: pjals: they use that
[18:02:25]: Jcodefox1: thank you
[18:02:33]: Dimaguy: is it possible to only mine with a specific gpu?
[18:02:36]: gollark: 6_4: want FURNACES(tm)?
[18:02:37]: *gollark is no longer AFK.
[18:02:39]: Dimaguy: I dont wanna use the integrated
[18:02:54]: pjals: normally kristforge uses both?
[18:03:06]: Dimaguy: yes
[18:03:13]: Dimaguy: it uses both
[18:03:27]: [GP] Welcome to MasDev-Operations' HeadQuarters
[18:03:34]: Dimaguy: but somehow it is only ramping up the integrated one
[18:03:43]: Dimaguy: the nvidia is very chill with it
[18:04:00]: pjals: just let it be
[18:04:19]: pjals: your using windows right
[18:04:30]: Dimaguy: yes my linux is broken actually
[18:04:40]: Dimaguy: kubuntu
[18:04:45]: pjals: yeah windows has issues running 2 gpu-intensive programs at once
[18:04:51]: pjals: so you can close minecraft to fix
[18:04:55]: Dimaguy: uwu
[18:04:56]: pjals: you can still talk from discord
[18:04:56]: *Cloud_Ninja is no longer AFK.
[18:04:59]: Dimaguy: okok
[18:05:09]: - Dimaguy left the game
[18:05:41]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: If you lower the work size you can 100% run both kristforge and minecraft
[18:06:30]: [D] Dimaguy: unknown.png
[18:06:37]: *Eevvaann6 has gone AFK.
[18:06:44]: [D] Dimaguy: unknown.png
[18:07:10]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: I think you should be able to hit nearly 1gh/s on a 1050
[18:07:22]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Max on my 1050ti was something like 1.2/1.3 i think
[18:07:28]: [D] Dimaguy: hmmmm then I am somehow only using the integrated
[18:07:42]: [D] Dimaguy: even tho the software says its using both
[18:07:53]: [D] Dimaguy: unknown.png
[18:08:03]: [D] Dimaguy: this is only getting more confusing
[18:08:14]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Is this a shitty optimus laptop lmfao
[18:08:33]: [D] Dimaguy: nah it is an HP Omen
[18:08:43]: [D] Dimaguy: laptop
[18:08:51]: [GP] Welcome to MasDev-Operations' HeadQuarters
[18:09:13]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: FUCK I need to get weed in the next 3 days
[18:09:16]: gollark: ...?
[18:09:21]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: 4/20 weekend
[18:09:27]: gollark: I see.
[18:09:28]: [D] Dimaguy: LMFAO
[18:09:43]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: the fuck did you expect from me gollark
[18:10:42]: *pjals has gone AFK.
[18:12:12]: *pjals is no longer AFK.
[18:12:54]: [D] Dimaguy: omg Im on like 80ºC
[18:13:00]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Sounds about right
[18:13:06]: [D] Dimaguy: but its kina regular to me
[18:13:12]: [D] Dimaguy: I need to change thermal paste
[18:13:26]: [D] Dimaguy: I just need to annoy my parents till they get it
[18:13:30]: [D] Dimaguy: uwu
[18:13:33]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: what a fucking brat
[18:13:39]: [D] Dimaguy: Im kidding
[18:13:41]: [D] Dimaguy: ok
[18:13:45]: [D] Dimaguy: jk
[18:14:01]: [D] Dimaguy: Its not like that ever worked
[18:14:02]: [D] Dimaguy: anywayas
[18:14:04]: [D] Dimaguy: (edited) anyways
[18:14:48]: gollark: You could get one of those graphite thermal pad things.
[18:14:54]: [D] Dimaguy: I wish
[18:15:00]: gollark: Theyr'e £10 or something.
[18:15:01]: You can change the colour of your claims on Dynmap with /claimcolour.
[18:15:03]: [D] Dimaguy: I never actually tried to open a computer yet
[18:15:21]: [D] Dimaguy: I only have the theory
[18:15:43]: [D] Dimaguy: but ye this krist miner is actually very chill
[18:15:52]: [D] Dimaguy: its better than folding@home
[18:15:57]: [GP] <KTC> You are now entering the Garden
[18:15:57]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: kristforge is solid
[18:15:58]: [GP] <KTC> You are now entering the Main Building
[18:16:00]: [GP] <KTC> You are now entering the Main Building
[18:16:03]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: The dev is super smart about that shit
[18:16:04]: [GP] <KTC> You are now entering the Main Building
[18:16:13]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: I actually bought my current GPU from them lmfao
[18:16:14]: [D] Dimaguy: It actually mines very fast
[18:16:18]: [D] Dimaguy: since like
[18:16:26]: [D] Dimaguy: its pretty much an unused
[18:16:28]: [D] Dimaguy: currency
[18:16:32]: [D] Dimaguy: outside MC
[18:16:33]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Turbokrist is how i got most of my krist
[18:16:38]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Kristforge wasn't out yet
[18:17:06]: + MultMine joined the game
[18:17:10]: Jcodefox1: o/
[18:17:12]: MultMine: morning
[18:17:13]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: hey mult
[18:17:14]: gollark: Yo(tm)
[18:17:14]: pjals: morning
[18:17:27]: You don't have paspagon's permission to interact with the block ironchest:iron_chest.
[18:17:31]: [GP] Welcome to the Luxury Skyscraper! Free appartments are available! Contact HydroNitrogen now!
[18:17:33]: [D] Dimaguy: mornin
[18:17:44]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Hey Pjals, you said something about the way krist works on here being insecure, wdym
[18:17:50]: MultMine: any news on amdgpu?
[18:17:50]: gollark: He is AFK.
[18:17:55]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: No he isn't, and no
[18:18:00]: * pjals has gone afk
[18:18:02]: gollark: It says AFK in the tab list.
[18:18:11]: gollark: That message was a lie though.
[18:18:12]: *gollark has gone AFK.
[18:18:13]: *gollark is no longer AFK.
[18:18:16]: gollark: That's what ireally looks like.
[18:18:20]: pjals experienced kinetic energy
[18:18:28]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: He's literally not afk
[18:18:28]: [D] Dimaguy: so basically since my wallet is a shared one. does it mean I am actually paying the server itself?
[18:18:29]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: he JUST spoke
[18:18:35]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Technically yes Dima
[18:18:39]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: but the server will handle it properly
[18:18:47]: [D] Dimaguy: villager hums
[18:18:54]: gollark: The tab list shows him as AFK, but it seems to be wrong. Mysterious.
[18:19:00]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: No it doesn't
[18:19:02]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: https://i.cloudninja.pw/QuackMysteriousLoris.png
[18:19:09]: Jcodefox1: he typed ./afk
[18:19:14]: *Jcodefox1 has gone AFK.
[18:19:15]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: No, he didn't
[18:19:18]: * pjals didn't type AFK.
[18:19:20]: *Jcodefox1 is no longer AFK.
[18:19:22]: * [S] Cloud_Ninja has gone afk
[18:19:23]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: vs
[18:19:24]: *Cloud_Ninja has gone AFK.
[18:19:27]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: there's a difference
[18:19:27]: *Cloud_Ninja is no longer AFK.
[18:19:29]: [D] gollark: 2020-04-17-181857_1366x721_scrot.png
[18:19:36]: * Luca_S has gone afk
[18:19:44]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: well your client is wrong gollark
[18:19:48]: gollark: Yes, apparently it is.
[18:20:01]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Regardless, wanna elaborate pjals
[18:20:07]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: I'm curious as to why you think it's insecure
[18:20:08]: gollark: He makes random statements like that a lot.
[18:20:22]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Which is why i'm going to call out his stupidity
[18:20:41]: Warped to home "playermonitor" successfully.
[18:20:49]: [me ➡ gollark]: -3896 74 3901
[18:20:49]: [gollark ➡ me]: -3896 74 3901
[18:20:51]: Returned you to your previous location.
[18:21:10]: [GP] <KTC> You are now entering the Garden
[18:22:18]: *Cloud_Ninja has gone AFK.
[18:22:43]: Warped to home "playermonitor" successfully.
[18:22:49]: Returned you to your previous location.
[18:23:29]: gollark: pjals, I have found you at last, and you must answer for your crimes.
[18:23:37]: pjals was slain by gollark using    [Hypercomputation and Other Crimes]
[18:24:01]: You don't have thatepicwolf's permission to interact with the block minecraft:cobblestone.
[18:24:08]: ---------------------- Claim Info ----------------------
[18:24:08]: Name : none  Area: 25x24  Blocks: 600
[18:24:08]: Owner : ThatEpicWolf
[18:24:08]: Type : 2D ADMIN [BASIC] SUBDIVISION TOWN
[18:24:08]: InheritParent : ON   Expired : NO
[18:24:08]: ForSale : NO
[18:24:08]: Accessors : none
[18:24:08]: Builders : PeterGriffNdoor
[18:24:08]: Containers : none
[18:24:08]: Managers : none
[18:24:08]: Greeting : none
[18:24:08]: Farewell : none
[18:24:08]: World : world
[18:24:08]: Created : Mon Oct 29 19:54:00 CET 2018
[18:24:08]: LastActive : Sat Jan 18 16:54:47 CET 2020
[18:24:08]: UUID : 2f709fc3-c31b-4656-9905-c5af504ab7b4
[18:24:08]: NorthCorners : NW : (-3985, 65, 3767) NE : (-3961, 65, 3767)
[18:24:08]: SouthCorners : SW : (-3985, 65, 3790) SE : (-3961, 65, 3790)
[18:24:08]: ------------------------ « » -------------------------
[18:24:11]: You don't have thatepicwolf's permission to interact with the block minecraft:planks.
[18:24:21]: gollark: Oh dear.
[18:24:24]: Warped to home "chorushousetop" successfully.
[18:24:45]: MultMine: was about to send a message complaining about enderman spawn rate
[18:24:52]: pjals: yeah its low
[18:24:56]: MultMine: then 5 spawned
[18:25:16]: Returned you to your previous location.
[18:25:38]: Warped to home "playermonitor" successfully.
[18:25:43]: Warped to home "pjals4" successfully.
[18:25:52]: gollark: Hmm, I wonder where pjals is.
[18:26:00]: pjals: tottaly not in the nether
[18:26:01]: gollark: Pjals, out of curiosity, what's your neural interface's name/ID?
[18:26:08]: pjals: 938219031283901
[18:26:15]: gollark: Label, then?
[18:26:27]: gollark: That doesn't really look like an ID.
[18:26:27]: pjals: "your not getting my label lol"
[18:26:30]: + 6_4 joined the game
[18:26:34]: + FiveMania5 joined the game
[18:26:35]: gollark: Why not? I totally can't remotely install potatOS if I know that.
[18:26:46]: gollark: Happy chicken, FiveMania5
[18:26:46]: gollark: !
[18:26:56]: FiveMania5: Hey
[18:26:57]: pjals: Happy Chicken, Happy Chicken!
[18:27:14]: Jcodefox1: :)
[18:27:29]: *Cloud_Ninja is no longer AFK.
[18:27:39]: - 6_4 left the game
[18:30:01]: You can change the colour of your claims on Dynmap with /claimcolour.
[18:31:18]: - MultMine left the game
[18:31:23]: + MultMine joined the game
[18:32:40]: *Cloud_Ninja has gone AFK.
[18:32:54]: + 6_4 joined the game
[18:33:00]: Warped to home "constructionsite" successfully.
[18:33:06]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Alright my uploader now has multiuser support
[18:33:07]: *Cloud_Ninja is no longer AFK.
[18:33:13]: *FiveMania5 has gone AFK.
[18:33:19]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: It's not in game lol
[18:33:22]: pjals: oh ok
[18:33:28]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: It's an ACTUAL webserver running on a VPS
[18:33:37]: Warped to home "chorushousetop" successfully.
[18:34:20]: 6_4 fell from a high place
[18:35:49]: 6_4: i've trapped gollark
[18:35:49]: You don't have permission to use plethora:neuralconnector on a opencomputers:print.
[18:35:57]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Oh man and it's already mostly async
[18:36:02]: gollark: Wow! Very strong "bedrock"!
[18:36:25]: Warped to home "constructionsite" successfully.
[18:36:29]: *FiveMania5 is no longer AFK.
[18:36:30]: 6_4: oh no he's disappeared
[18:36:33]: Returned you to your previous location.
[18:36:34]: Welcome DontNeedGoodName to the server!
[18:36:34]: + DontNeedGoodName joined the game
[18:36:37]: MultMine: welcome!
[18:36:38]: gollark: WELCOME!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:36:40]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: Welcome
[18:36:41]: pjals: are you an alt+!!?!?!?!?
[18:36:42]: Jcodefox1: Welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:36:43]: FiveMania5: Welcome
[18:36:43]: 6_4: hey give me my bedrock back
[18:36:44]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: what a name lmao
[18:36:47]: gollark: I already have. Possibly.
[18:36:58]: DontNeedGoodName: hello
[18:36:59]: gollark: I should 3D-print my own bedrock!
[18:37:04]: pjals: DontNeedGoodName are you an alternative account?!
[18:37:11]: DontNeedGoodName: actually no
[18:37:14]: pjals: weord
[18:37:15]: pjals: weird*
[18:37:17]: DontNeedGoodName: believe it or not
[18:37:18]: pjals: that name tho
[18:37:20]: gollark: DontNeedGoodName is TOTALLY not pjals in disguise. TOTALLY.
[18:37:20]: FiveMania5: gollark: How i can 3D-print something?
[18:37:25]: gollark: With a 3D printer!
[18:37:35]: gollark: You can use a CC computer, OC "relay", and 3D printer, or an OC computer directly.
[18:37:45]: 6_4: gollark I gave you access to the chest with the PotatOS computers
[18:37:49]: gollark: (you still need a 3D printer either way, I mean, but can interface with it from CC via a relay)
[18:38:11]: [S] Cloud_Ninja: DontNeedGoodName has had the account since at least 2018, doesn't really seem like an alt based on previous names
[18:38:14]: Warped to home "constructionsite" successfully.
[18:38:29]: spawner, spawnerinside, spawntestroom, spawntestroom2
[18:38:33]: Warped to home "spawntestroom" successfully.
[18:38:37]: Jcodefox1: DontNeedGoodName What is the name of this server?
[18:38:38]: gollark: Breaking into secret admin rooms is hard.
[18:38:40]: FiveMania5: Oh, yes. Nitrogenfingers had a 3D printing software for CC.
[18:38:43]: DontNeedGoodName: its called switchcraft
[18:38:51]: You don't have permission to use minecraft:chorus_fruit on a chisel:laboratory.
[18:38:51]: 6_4 has requested that they teleport to you.
[18:38:51]: Accept - Deny
[18:38:58]: pjals: bye
[18:39:02]: gollark: I'm just in the regular under-spawn room now, 6_4.
[18:39:03]: - pjals left the game
[18:39:06]: 6_4: oh
[18:39:06]: Jcodefox1: He answered honestly, an alt might act like he doesn't know
[18:39:07]: gollark: Trying to enter their new room.
[18:39:17]: gollark: That is an AWFUL alt test.
[18:39:19]: 6_4: can I still tpa though
[18:39:22]: 6_4 has requested that they teleport to you.
[18:39:22]: Accept - Deny
[18:39:24]: You don't have permission to use minecraft:chorus_fruit on a minecraft:wall_sign.
[18:39:24]: You don't have SwitchCraft's permission to access that.
[18:39:25]: You don't have permission to use minecraft:chorus_fruit on a minecraft:iron_door.
[18:39:30]: 6_4 teleported to your location.
[18:39:30]: You have accepted the teleport request.
[18:39:34]: Jcodefox1: I don't do alt tests often
[18:39:58]: 6_4: this place has changed since last time I was here
[18:40:03]: gollark: I don't see how them saying the name of the server provides any good information about whether they are an alt or not.
[18:40:05]: 6_4: where's the secret admin room though
[18:40:10]: gollark: That stair there.
[18:40:12]: gollark: I haven't gotten in yet.
[18:40:47]: Jcodefox1: I was checking if an alt would "play dumb"
[18:41:13]: 6_4: i got through the first iron door
[18:41:16]: gollark: A non-alt could plausibly say that for whatever reason, and an alt might not say that.
[18:41:19]: You don't have permission to use plethora:neuralconnector on a quark:iron_button.
[18:41:20]: A teleport request was sent to 6_4.
[18:41:22]: gollark: ... how?
[18:41:23]: You have teleported to 6_4's location.
[18:41:27]: 6_4: chorus fruit
[18:41:28]: Set a home with the name "adminroom1".
[18:41:32]: Eevvaann6: HEY
[18:41:33]: *Eevvaann6 is no longer AFK.
[18:41:35]: admin, admin2, admin3, adminroom1, adminsphere
[18:41:36]: Warped to home "adminroom1" successfully.
[18:41:37]: Jcodefox1: I guess
[18:41:38]: gollark: You're back!
[18:41:39]: You don't have permission to use minecraft:chorus_fruit on a minecraft:iron_door.
[18:41:43]: Jcodefox1: I do things improve
[18:41:44]: Eevvaann6: How do i make Git work
[18:41:45]: Warped to home "adminroom1" successfully.
[18:41:49]: gollark: Are YOU Mine Turtle?
[18:41:50]: You don't have permission to use minecraft:chorus_fruit on a minecraft:iron_door.
[18:41:51]: You don't have permission to use minecraft:chorus_fruit on a minecraft:concrete.
[18:41:51]: You don't have SwitchCraft's permission to interact with the block minecraft:concrete.
[18:41:52]: You don't have permission to use minecraft:chorus_fruit on a minecraft:concrete.
[18:41:52]: You don't have SwitchCraft's permission to interact with the block minecraft:concrete.
[18:41:55]: 6_4: ok i'll act as a /home, if you get into there then tpahere me
[18:41:55]: Eevvaann6: Yes
[18:41:57]: gollark: AAAAAAAa
[18:42:03]: Warped to home "admin" successfully.
[18:42:05]: Warped to home "adminroom1" successfully.
[18:42:07]: You don't have permission to use minecraft:chorus_fruit on a minecraft:iron_door.
[18:42:16]: gollark: I can just sethome there. It's an admin claim.
[18:42:19]: 6_4: oh yeah
[18:42:33]: Luca_S has requested that you teleport to them.
[18:42:33]: Accept - Deny
[18:42:36]: You have teleported to Luca_S's location.
[18:42:36]: You have accepted the teleport request.
[18:42:37]: Luca_S: look at all this shiny storage
[18:42:41]: You don't have permission to use minecraft:chorus_fruit on a ironchest:iron_chest.
[18:42:45]: gollark: It's very shiny, yes.
[18:42:46]: admin, admin2, admin3, adminroom1, adminsphere
[18:42:47]: Warped to home "adminroom1" successfully.
[18:42:49]: Jcodefox1: Welcome
[18:42:49]: You don't have permission to use minecraft:chorus_fruit on a minecraft:iron_door.
[18:42:50]: Luca_S: I doubled my Milo storage capacity :D