[16:53:13]: Lemmmy: you wanna get better use out of your PCIE lanes, go NVME
[16:53:28]: Lemmmy: if you dont have m.2 slots on your board you can get pcie x4 or x16 M.2 adapters
[16:53:34]: RubenKnijn: I do
[16:53:38]: [S] Luca_S: I have an NVME M.2 ssd in my laptop, and my pc is up in 15s, 13s being me entering the FDE password lol
[16:53:38]: RubenKnijn: 2 of them
[16:53:45]: RubenKnijn: one connected to the chipset
[16:53:47]: RubenKnijn: one directly
[16:53:50]: gollark: I might acquire a SSD and install it in my server one of these days.
[16:53:51]: RubenKnijn: both technically gen4
[16:54:02]: gollark: It has a 10-year-old SAS hard disk and a 4TB IronWolf I got last year.
[16:54:20]: Lemmmy: if you want to exploit gen4 you want a 980 pro
[16:54:29]: Lemmmy: but they are VERY expensive right now
[16:54:33]: RubenKnijn: yeah
[16:54:35]: Lemmmy: and you are likely not to get full performance
[16:54:44]: gollark: I'm pretty sure for basically every practical use other than video editing and stuff a SATA SSD is fine.
[16:54:45]: [D] Knijn: unknown.png
[16:54:46]: [D] Knijn: oh please
[16:54:54]: RubenKnijn: gollark downloading games at gigabit speeds
[16:54:59]: Kc5f: xd
[16:55:01]: gollark: Wrong, actually?
[16:55:04]: Kc5f: imagine having gigabit speeds
[16:55:08]: RubenKnijn: We have gigabit here
[16:55:09]: gollark: Gigabit is 125MB/s; any SATA SSD can do that easily.
[16:55:10]: Lemmmy: gigabit is 125 MB/s RubenKnijn
[16:55:12]: Kc5f: 15mbps
[16:55:13]: Lemmmy: you can do that on a HDD
[16:55:15]: RubenKnijn: I know
[16:55:18]: Lemmmy: my WD Black HDDs push 200 MB/s
[16:55:26]: RubenKnijn: But datarate is usually higher because of compression
[16:55:36]: gollark: SATA SSDs do slightly under 6Gbps.
[16:55:39]: gollark: I really don't think this is an issue.
[16:55:49]: Kc5f: How good are the WD black ones? I had a segate one die last week after about 2 years
[16:56:01]: gollark: Backblaze has some data on commodity disks' failure rates.
[16:56:05]: Lemmmy: Kc5f: i have been buying WD black since my first ever HDD, a samsung 2tb one, died
[16:56:11]: Kc5f: wow
[16:56:18]: Lemmmy: i have one WD blue 2tb, three WD black 2tb, and one WD black 14tb
[16:56:24]: Lemmmy: all have been under major loads and are still going strong
[16:56:25]: gollark: They have a large sample size, and are probably better than anecdotes.
[16:56:26]: [GD] Welcome to Switchcraft's Pulling-down Hydroelectric Power Facility
[16:56:34]: Lemmmy: and yes, read backblaze's data on this
[16:56:36]: gollark: Although their workload may not be the same as yours.
[16:56:38]: Kc5f: Do you think they would be good to be on 24/7?
[16:56:43]: Lemmmy: yes my 14tb black is on 24/7
[16:56:49]: Kc5f: Perfect
[16:56:50]: [S] Luca_S: I'm surprised that my WD Blue in my server is still running
[16:56:53]: Lemmmy: its better to keep HDDs spinning 24/7 than it is to stop/start them
[16:56:54]: Kc5f: diy rpi nas
[16:57:03]: Kc5f: Yeah, that can lead to bad stuff
[16:57:06]: [S] Luca_S: it has like a year of near 24/7 use
[16:57:12]: Lemmmy: so you will want to disable auto spindown
[16:57:16]: Lemmmy: if you intend to use it 24/7
[16:57:25]: Lemmmy: note that WD blacks are very loud
[16:57:33]: Lemmmy: your neighbour will probably hear it
[16:57:34]: *Luca_S has gone AFK.
[16:57:47]: Lemmmy: especially when reading
[16:57:51]: gollark: Your neighbours won't hear it if the sound is drowned out by your server's fans!
[16:57:53]: Kc5f: will my dog eat it?
[16:57:57]: Lemmmy: yes your dog will eat it
[16:57:58]: Lemmmy: they are tasty
[16:58:01]: Kc5f: ah
[16:58:07]: Kc5f: ima go tell him not to
[16:58:13]: Lemmmy: scariest thing i ever did was shucking my 14tb black lol
[16:58:18]: Lemmmy: it still had all the data on it
[16:58:25]: Lemmmy: ofc i spent 3 weeks backing it up to the cloud or other drives first
[16:58:33]: Lignum: got homework due tomorrow at 12 and it's the kind that only god can help me with!!! >:(
[16:58:43]: [D] Lemmmy: still ond iscord, going to dev server rq
[16:58:44]: Lignum: i am so fucked
[16:58:45]: - Lemmmy left the game
[16:58:48]: Kc5f: gl
[16:58:58]: PC_Cat: Knijn?
[16:59:11]: RubenKnijn: why the fuck
[16:59:12]: Kc5f: anyone selling lots of wool or cloud blocks?
[16:59:19]: PC_Cat: Knijn can u accept me?
[16:59:19]: RubenKnijn: are there literally reccomendations in my subscriptions feed
[17:00:04]: You can create 3D claims with /cuboidclaims!
[17:00:04]: Automatic server restart in 10 minutes.
[17:00:17]: RubenKnijn: guess i'll restart as well
[17:00:25]: RubenKnijn: wait i can't
[17:00:26]: RubenKnijn: nvm
[17:00:39]: Kc5f: You guys should add like switchcraft.isServerRestartingSoon()
[17:01:03]: + Lemmmy joined the game
[17:01:06]: Kc5f: sounds stupid, but it could be useful for things
[17:01:08]: Lemmmy: you can just use your clock
[17:01:15]: [D] Knijn: unknown.png
[17:01:20]: Kc5f: wait, how often does it restart?
[17:01:22]: gollark: But what of MANUAL restarts?
[17:01:23]: Lemmmy: the main argument for an API call like that is that people can make their computers/turtles stop their jobs before a restart,
[17:01:24]: gollark: Every 6 hours.
[17:01:27]: [D] Knijn: unknown.png HOW
[17:01:31]: Lemmmy: and to that i say: that API call will not help you when the server crashes
[17:01:40]: [D] Knijn: IT WAS LITERALLY 26G LIKE MINUTES AGO
[17:01:42]: [D] Knijn: A
[17:01:43]: Lemmmy: so i think it would be a bad idea to add because it would encourage bad state management practice
[17:01:49]: gollark: Just store all your state on OpenComputers?
[17:01:50]: Kc5f: ah yeah
[17:01:54]: RubenKnijn: wait the game is isntalled?
[17:02:28]: RubenKnijn: i thought it was vanguard that was being installed
[17:02:29]: RubenKnijn: bruih
[17:02:35]: RubenKnijn: internet is too fast
[17:02:42]: - RubenKnijn left the game
[17:03:23]: Kc5f: can I barrow somebody's sheep
[17:03:48]: *Lignum has gone AFK.
[17:04:27]: Lemmmy: time to downstack another 199 reviews
[17:04:30]: Lemmmy: oh i havent had a monster yet
[17:05:01]: Automatic server restart in 5 minutes.
[17:06:01]: Automatic server restart in 4 minutes.
[17:07:01]: Automatic server restart in 3 minutes.
[17:07:05]: TotallyNotVirtIO: Kc5f
[17:07:07]: Kc5f: yea?
[17:07:18]: TotallyNotVirtIO: you literally just check how long is it to hour:10
[17:07:23]: You have warped to the spawn point for world world.
[17:07:26]: TotallyNotVirtIO: and then you use that
[17:07:34]: Kc5f: I thought it restarted like every 6 hours
[17:07:35]: *PC_Cat has gone AFK.
[17:07:46]: TotallyNotVirtIO: well every 6 ig
[17:07:47]: TotallyNotVirtIO: no idea
[17:07:55]: TotallyNotVirtIO: lem
[17:08:01]: Automatic server restart in 2 minutes.
[17:08:06]: Lemmmy: oh sorry i didnt respond
[17:08:10]: Lemmmy: yes its every 6
[17:08:14]: Kc5f: YES
[17:08:17]: Lemmmy: the restart job starts at midnight in the server's timezone
[17:08:20]: TotallyNotVirtIO: o
[17:08:22]: Lemmmy: and the restart obv happens 10 mins after that
[17:08:30]: gollark: Why is the server's timezone not UTC?
[17:08:36]: Kc5f: because it's sad
[17:08:54]: [enes20enes ➡ me]: so gollark do you accept?
[17:08:55]: *enes20enes is no longer AFK.
[17:08:56]: TotallyNotVirtIO: where is the server located :thonk:
[17:08:59]: Lemmmy: germany
[17:09:00]: enes20enes: :tm:
[17:09:01]: Automatic server restart in 1 minute.
[17:09:02]: Kc5f: mars
[17:09:07]: [S] Luca_S: technically it's not always 6 hours
[17:09:08]: *Luca_S is no longer AFK.
[17:09:12]: gollark: GTech™'s™ LEO datacentre.
[17:09:22]: [S] Luca_S: once a year it's 5 hours and once a year it's 7 hours between restarts
[17:09:25]: Lemmmy: that's true
[17:09:27]: Lemmmy: we have been considering moving the restart window
[17:09:31]: Automatic server restart in 30 seconds.
[17:09:40]: [S] Luca_S: to?
[17:09:46]: Automatic server restart in 15 seconds.
[17:09:51]: Automatic server restart in 10 seconds.
[17:09:56]: Lemmmy: every monday at midnight the server takes longer to start because it coincides with a long-running filesystem cleanup job
[17:09:56]: Automatic server restart in 5 seconds.
[17:10:07]: The server you were on kicked you: Kicked from switchcraft: The server is restarting. Please rejoin shortly.
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[17:10:07]: ------------------------ MOTD ------------------------
[17:10:07]: Welcome to SwitchCraft!
[17:10:07]: The server is currently restarting. Thanks for your patience!
[17:10:07]: If you are unable to join, make sure you are on the latest version of the pack: 3.31
[17:10:07]: ------------------------ « » -------------------------
[17:10:12]: Lemmmy: that job takes about 30-60 mins to run
[17:10:21]: Lemmmy: so we've been considering juust moving the restart window forward a bit to compensate
[17:10:27]: Lemmmy: an hour or two
[17:10:41]: Kc5f: ew filesystems
[17:10:47]: gollark: Yes, real men use unmanaged mode.
[17:10:48]: Lemmmy: the server would still lag like heck during that filesystem job, but at least it wouldnt take half an hour to start? lol
[17:10:59]: [S] Luca_S: what does the job do lol
[17:11:00]: gollark: Can you not just do continuous TRIMing?
[17:11:01]: Unable to connect to switchcraft. Try again later.
[17:11:08]: Kc5f: why use a filysystem
[17:11:09]: Lemmmy: its ubuntu's default fstrim Luca_S
[17:11:18]: Lemmmy: i havent really looked into it to be honest with you gollark
[17:11:27]: Kc5f: you should just store data on paper
[17:11:36]: Kc5f: manually write every event
[17:11:37]: TotallyNotVirtIO: btw lem the tps sems to be unstable
[17:11:42]: gollark: Store it on potatOS potatocloud™.
[17:11:45]: Kc5f: no
[17:11:47]: Lemmmy: apparently continuous fstrim results in degraded performance?
[17:11:47]: gollark: I store all my backups on there.
[17:11:54]: enes20enes: gollark do you accept my offer?
[17:12:00]: Kc5f: store events on a peice of paper and mail it to players
[17:12:01]: Can't connect to switchcraft: Server is still starting! Please wait before reconnecting.
[17:12:03]: TotallyNotVirtIO: the tps is higher but it feels like its lagging more when using cc
[17:12:10]: Kc5f: the TPS is 2-5 buisness days
[17:12:31]: Lemmmy: speaking of restarts taking longer...
[17:12:32]: Lemmmy: oh its done
[17:12:36]: Kc5f: :D
[17:12:48]: - Kc5f left the game
[17:12:49]: - TotallyNotVirtIO left the game
[17:12:55]: - enes20enes left the game
[17:13:06]: - 6_4 left the game
[17:13:11]: - PC_Cat left the game
[17:13:12]: - Lignum left the game
[17:13:14]: + gollark joined the game
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[17:13:14]: + [S] Luca_S joined the game
[17:13:14]: + Lemmmy joined the game
[17:13:18]: [enes20enes ➡ me]: so gollark do you accept?
[17:13:24]: TotallyNotVirtIO: LMAO
[17:13:27]: TotallyNotVirtIO: 0.28 TPS
[17:13:35]: Lemmmy: the server is still starting
[17:13:42]: enes20enes: its started tho.
[17:14:03]: Lemmmy: the chunks are loading and the computers are turning on
[17:14:07]: Lemmmy: that's why tps is low when you first join
[17:14:14]: [S] Luca_S: what's turning them on?
[17:14:18]: Lemmmy: players being onlinne
[17:14:19]: [S] Luca_S: dirty circuit diagrams?
[17:14:24]: Lemmmy: oh
[17:14:32]: Dim  0 (overworld) : Mean tick time: 89.543 ms. Mean TPS: 11.168
[17:14:32]: Dim -1 (the_nether) : Mean tick time: 6.220 ms. Mean TPS: 20.000
[17:14:32]: Dim  1 (the_end) : Mean tick time: 3.868 ms. Mean TPS: 20.000
[17:14:32]: Overall : Mean tick time: 117.788 ms. Mean TPS: 8.490
[17:14:33]: enes20enes: so thats why my boot notification lasted for more then normal
[17:14:34]: Dim  0 (overworld) : Mean tick time: 84.148 ms. Mean TPS: 11.884
[17:14:34]: Dim -1 (the_nether) : Mean tick time: 6.103 ms. Mean TPS: 20.000
[17:14:34]: Dim  1 (the_end) : Mean tick time: 3.663 ms. Mean TPS: 20.000
[17:14:34]: Overall : Mean tick time: 111.296 ms. Mean TPS: 8.985
[17:14:35]: Dim  0 (overworld) : Mean tick time: 87.469 ms. Mean TPS: 11.433
[17:14:35]: Dim -1 (the_nether) : Mean tick time: 5.957 ms. Mean TPS: 20.000
[17:14:35]: Dim  1 (the_end) : Mean tick time: 3.644 ms. Mean TPS: 20.000
[17:14:35]: Overall : Mean tick time: 113.754 ms. Mean TPS: 8.791
[17:14:37]: Dim  0 (overworld) : Mean tick time: 84.178 ms. Mean TPS: 11.880
[17:14:37]: Dim -1 (the_nether) : Mean tick time: 5.679 ms. Mean TPS: 20.000
[17:14:37]: Dim  1 (the_end) : Mean tick time: 3.758 ms. Mean TPS: 20.000
[17:14:37]: Overall : Mean tick time: 108.864 ms. Mean TPS: 9.186
[17:14:47]: gollark: The TPS computation on my glasses seems slightly inaccurate now, somehow.
[17:14:47]: Dim  0 (overworld) : Mean tick time: 50.358 ms. Mean TPS: 19.858
[17:14:47]: Dim -1 (the_nether) : Mean tick time: 4.954 ms. Mean TPS: 20.000
[17:14:47]: Dim  1 (the_end) : Mean tick time: 2.667 ms. Mean TPS: 20.000
[17:14:47]: Overall : Mean tick time: 66.583 ms. Mean TPS: 15.019
[17:15:10]: gollark: It just sleeps for a second and sees how many real-world seconds it took. Fairly accurate except around restarts.
[17:15:11]: Lemmmy: ok somebody has 347 items
[17:15:17]: Lemmmy: i am going to find you and kill you
[17:15:24]: enes20enes: in inventory?
[17:15:24]: Kc5f: like in their inventory?
[17:15:25]: gollark: 347 items in what context?
[17:15:31]: Lemmmy: items on the floor
[17:15:34]: enes20enes: oh
[17:15:36]: enes20enes: not me
[17:15:36]: Kc5f: oh my god
[17:15:38]: enes20enes: i think.
[17:15:40]: Kc5f: that's a lot
[17:15:41]: TotallyNotVirtIO: not me
[17:15:41]: [S] Luca_S: like 347 stacks
[17:15:46]: gollark: Oh, that was my secret project for saving chest space.
[17:15:53]: Kc5f: obviously
[17:15:55]: enes20enes has requested that they teleport to you.
[17:15:55]: Accept - Deny
[17:15:59]: [S] Luca_S: what I mean: Are there 347 different entities or are they grouped together?
[17:16:01]: gollark: Basically, it maintains all of the inventory as items on the floor, and periodically cycles them through chests to avoid the despawn timer.
[17:16:03]: [D] LPK: cobblestone, probably
[17:16:06]: Lemmmy: they are 347 different entities
[17:16:06]: TotallyNotVirtIO: we do have a lot of chichens
[17:16:08]: gollark: They are scanned using an entity sensor.
[17:16:11]: [S] Luca_S: oh lol
[17:16:22]: Kc5f: we should all clap for gollark
[17:16:25]: enes20enes: :clap:
[17:16:27]: enes20enes: :tm:
[17:16:28]: Kc5f: :clap:
[17:16:29]: + 6_4 joined the game
[17:16:42]: enes20enes: gollark hows GTech:tm:
[17:16:48]: gollark: Inevitable and omniscient.
[17:16:55]: Warped to the default home successfully.
[17:17:00]: enes20enes: gTech:tm: hire me
[17:17:01]: A teleport request was sent to enes20enes.
[17:17:03]: enes20enes teleported to your location.
[17:17:04]: gollark: Observe, the GTech™ oversight station.
[17:17:14]: [S] Luca_S: how can I get hired to GTech?
[17:17:31]: gollark: You must pass our intense interview process.
[17:17:34]: Kc5f: I also want to get hired to GTech™
[17:17:37]: TotallyNotVirtIO: lem is dropping 128 stacks of cobble bad for the tps
[17:17:38]: Kc5f: I even use the ™ symbol
[17:17:39]: enes20enes: gollark u accept my offer?
[17:17:42]: Kc5f: and I asked first
[17:17:47]: gollark: Unfortunately, most phases cannot proceed without heav_, a GTech™ partner™.
[17:17:48]: [S] Luca_S: ok i want to start the interview
[17:17:55]: enes20enes: gollark u accept my offer?
[17:18:01]: Kc5f: if I spam the bee man will he get on faster
[17:18:06]: - PC_Cat left the game
[17:18:10]: gollark: Probably not.
[17:18:13]: *Lignum has gone AFK.
[17:18:13]: Kc5f: ah
[17:18:17]: enes20enes: 6_4 nurel?
[17:18:20]: Kc5f: I am subbed to heav_ on youtube so
[17:18:21]: - TotallyNotVirtIO left the game
[17:18:23]: gollark: Of course, I think we can run the ethical tests and preliminary multiple-choice section without that.
[17:18:26]: [S] Luca_S: gollark how do I start the interview process?
[17:18:39]: Kc5f: you must wait
[17:18:41]: gollark: It's mostly done by Discord, or I can arbitrarily throw questions at you on here.
[17:18:57]: enes20enes: gollark, give me an interview please.
[17:19:00]: gollark: No.
[17:19:12]: enes20enes: ok then accept my offer pls
[17:19:12]: Kc5f: he needs all GTech™ partners to be online
[17:19:16]: [S] Luca_S: guess you can start throwing questions at me while I start discord
[17:19:16]: gollark: Well, I don't strictly.
[17:19:26]: gollark: Luca_S: Why do you not not want to unwork at non-GTech™?
[17:19:44]: [S] Luca_S: I currently don't have an occupation
[17:19:50]: enes20enes was slain by gollark using    [Hypercomputation and Other Crimes]
[17:19:53]: Kc5f: L
[17:19:55]: enes20enes: nooooo
[17:19:56]: [S] Luca_S: so there's nothing to unwork at
[17:20:03]: gollark: What do you expect your primary role at GTech™ to be?
[17:20:03]: Check out the new ComputerCraft Wiki! https://tweaked.cc
[17:20:21]: [S] Luca_S: Being someone with access to many of GTechs secrets
[17:20:24]: gollark: What do you expect your primary roll at GTech™ to be?
[17:20:29]: enes20enes was slain by gollark using    [Hypercomputation and Other Crimes]
[17:20:36]: [S] Luca_S: clockwise
[17:20:54]: gollark: Which GTech™ facility contains the most interesting secrets, to you?
[17:21:09]: [S] Luca_S: SBF and the Floating End cube thingy
[17:21:14]: gollark: Interesting!
[17:21:19]: gollark: Wrong, but interesting.
[17:21:28]: [S] Luca_S: i want to be where the newest developments take place
[17:21:30]: Kc5f: that one door at the underground base that acts like my first prototype of the encrpyted door system
[17:21:40]: gollark: The... Apiaristics Division™?
[17:21:43]: gollark: Why would you go there?
[17:21:44]: Kc5f: yes
[17:21:47]: [D] LPK: ah you should have said site null!
[17:21:56]: [S] Luca_S: you said most of the new development happens there
[17:21:57]: gollark: That's not really a R&D site, but it is where the secrets go.
[17:21:57]: [enes20enes ➡ me]: gollark my offer is i get access to all sites, and almost all code? for 1.5k krist (i can go higher), ?
[17:22:05]: [S] Luca_S: oh I see
[17:22:08]: [S] Luca_S: well even better
[17:22:19]: [S] Luca_S: finished secrets are easier to steal than in progress R&D stuff
[17:22:20]: Kc5f: I know all of the GTech™ trade secrets tbh
[17:22:27]: gollark: You know the decoy secrets.
[17:22:31]: gollark: And what about the nontrade secrets?
[17:22:35]: Kc5f: I know the real ones
[17:22:37]: Kc5f: only the trade ones
[17:22:43]: gollark: Weak.
[17:22:46]: Lemmmy: so i have a dump to csv command and a prometheus exporter
[17:22:50]: Lemmmy: and they both pull from the same dataset
[17:22:55]: Lemmmy: but some data appears in prometheus that doesnt exist in the csv dump
[17:22:56]: gollark: How does the GTech™ monitoring network work?
[17:23:08]: [GD] Welcome to Switchcraft's Pulling-down Hydroelectric Power Facility
[17:23:09]: [S] Luca_S: classified technology + a sprinkle of magic
[17:23:13]: gollark: What? No.
[17:23:19]: Kc5f: obviously wrong
[17:23:20]: gollark: It's nonmagical. We have SAG mills operating near it in some cases.
[17:23:23]: Kc5f: you use spudnet
[17:23:25]: enes20enes: ™
[17:23:26]: gollark: Also wrong.
[17:23:27]: [GD] Welcome to Switchcraft's Pulling-down Hydroelectric Power Facility
[17:23:29]: Kc5f: :O
[17:23:30]: [D] SpaceRanger4827: ™
[17:23:41]: gollark: You have seen the RSAPI Diagram?
[17:23:47]: Kc5f: nope
[17:23:49]: [D] SpaceRanger4827: i love the ™ symbol
[17:23:55]: gollark: Why have you not seen the RSAPI Diagram?
[17:24:09]: Kc5f: I just haven;t
[17:24:11]: [D] gollark: https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/w_w0dZ01pFpxxKXGEV5aXJ-SRREIsQut9SElt_KP4k0/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/348702212110680064/950854095386857592/screenshot-20_02_29-08_03_2022.png?
[17:24:32]: Kc5f: again, I only know the trade secrets
[17:24:37]: [D] SpaceRanger4827: who wants to work for TTech
[17:24:42]: enes20enes: hmmm
[17:24:45]: gollark: But this isn't secret. You could know it.
[17:24:51]: gollark: Besides, I was asking Luca_S.
[17:24:55]: [D] Knijn: What does TTech stand for?
[17:25:01]: gollark: The T is Tech.
[17:25:06]: [D] SpaceRanger4827: Tech Tech
[17:25:12]: Kc5f: you use
[17:25:13]: Kc5f: nginx
[17:25:13]: Kc5f: nice
[17:25:17]: [S] Luca_S: i have now seen the RSAPI diagram
[17:25:17]: gollark: Don't we all?
[17:25:20]: Kc5f: Yeah
[17:25:21]: enes20enes: i dont
[17:25:23]: enes20enes: i use apache
[17:25:24]: Kc5f: HOW DARE YOU
[17:25:25]: enes20enes: :)
[17:25:31]: enes20enes: jk
[17:25:31]: gollark: Hmmmm.
[17:25:33]: [D] Knijn: wow
[17:25:38]: enes20enes: i use nginx
[17:25:38]: enes20enes: its supieror
[17:25:46]: Kc5f: I use Nginx as a reverse proxy and SSL thing to a custom ExpressJS backend on most of my websites that aren't on netlify
[17:25:53]: [S] Luca_S: I switched to Caddy
[17:25:53]: gollark: > SaaS platforms
[17:25:56]: [S] Luca_S: (Thanks Lem)
[17:25:56]: [D] Knijn: I use casket
[17:25:58]: [D] Knijn: It's pretty good
[17:26:18]: gollark: Caddy is acceptable. I merely stopped using it because Caddy v2 was too backward-incompatible.
[17:27:07]: Kc5f: What is your guys' favorite backend framework?
[17:27:10]: gollark: Now to blatantly copy questions from Knijn's interview.
[17:27:15]: gollark: Kc5f: I randomly alternate between them.
[17:27:18]: Lemmmy: same
[17:27:20]: Kc5f: ah
[17:27:25]: Lemmmy: i have a long history of using express with typescript for the most part
[17:27:25]: enes20enes: gollark give me the interview thank you.
[17:27:28]: Kc5f: I essentially always use Expressjs
[17:27:30]: gollark: The only thing I use more than once in a currently deployed service is Express, I think?
[17:27:31]: Lemmmy: most of my projects are frankenstein copypastes from each other
[17:27:36]: Lemmmy: but recently i've been using next.js more
[17:27:38]: [D] gollark: screenshot-17_26_59-01_05_2022.png
[17:27:45]: Lemmmy: which, admittedly, is a frontend framework, but i use it for SSR tasks
[17:27:49]: gollark: This is for Luca_S and Kc5f. You may, of course, duel each other to determine the answers.
[17:28:07]: Kc5f: hmm
[17:28:30]: Kc5f: 11
[17:28:32]: enes20enes: 10
[17:28:38]: gollark: Luca_S?
[17:28:52]: enes20enes: 10 and 13
[17:28:56]: [S] Luca_S: 13
[17:29:01]: gollark: Great!
[17:29:15]: [D] gollark: screenshot-17_29_07-01_05_2022.png
[17:29:24]: gollark: This is Newcomb's paradox, which you may already be familiar with.
[17:29:37]: [GD] Welcome to Switchcraft's Pulling-down Hydroelectric Power Facility
[17:29:48]: [D] Lemmmy: unknown.png looks like sedimentary rocks
[17:30:01]: You can create 3D claims with /cuboidclaims!
[17:30:03]: Kc5f: 1
[17:30:07]: gollark: Gold chests are weirdly unpopular.
[17:30:16]: Kc5f: Yeah
[17:30:17]: [S] Luca_S: 2
[17:30:19]: gollark: Well, not weirdly.
[17:30:27]: gollark: Luca_S has chosen the wrong answer. Very sad.
[17:30:27]: enes20enes: 3 and 7,
[17:30:38]: Kc5f: So sad
[17:30:40]: [D] gollark: twoboxer.png
[17:30:49]: enes20enes: sad Luca
[17:30:58]: [D] Lemmmy: now i just need to develop similar tooling using the nbt scanner
[17:31:04]: + PC_Cat joined the game
[17:31:05]: [D] Lemmmy: because thesse stats only apply to loaded chunks
[17:31:07]: gollark: Which is the best PotatOS™ feature?
[17:31:07]: Kc5f: I agree gollark
[17:31:14]: enes20enes: all of em
[17:31:15]: Kc5f: krist miner
[17:31:25]: Kc5f: and the static one to wipe people's minds
[17:31:25]: [S] Luca_S: gollark I'm actually quite impressed by the sandboxing
[17:31:35]: gollark: Despite the FOUR bugs in it?
[17:31:38]: gollark: Well, four known ones.
[17:31:44]: gollark: Well, four claimed ones.
[17:31:50]: [S] Luca_S: It's still one of the best there is currently
[17:31:53]: enes20enes: all of em
[17:31:54]: Kc5f: potatoplex is the besrt
[17:32:00]: Lemmmy: yeah it actually tries unlike most
[17:32:15]: gollark: I'm pretty sure most of the sandbox issues are actually in the PotatOS APIs and not the actual sandbox, so if you want security you can just remove those mostly.
[17:32:23]: Kc5f: Potatonet is also cool
[17:32:25]: gollark: I still never got round to fixing it to use a proper VFS and not naive string matching.
[17:32:47]: [D] gollark: screenshot-17_31_15-01_05_2022.png
[17:33:03]: gollark: Doesn't JackMacWindows have a working sandbox too?
[17:33:08]: enes20enes: i think so
[17:33:15]: enes20enes: anyways so gollark did i pass?
[17:33:24]: gollark: This isn't even phase π/2.
[17:33:28]: gollark: And you're not being interviewed.
[17:33:31]: Kc5f: yes
[17:33:32]: enes20enes: ok then
[17:33:34]: [S] Luca_S: 2
[17:33:36]: - PC_Cat left the game
[17:33:41]: [enes20enes ➡ me]: gollark my offer is i get access to all sites, and almost all code? for 1.5k krist (i can go higher), ?
[17:33:45]: enes20enes: gollark accept my offer
[17:34:14]: gollark: Anyway, while randomly inserting yourself into an interview might be good if you do it in a cool way, you didn't.
[17:34:17]: gollark: So you fail retrocausally.
[17:34:22]: enes20enes: ...
[17:34:26]: enes20enes: ok fine.
[17:34:31]: enes20enes: just accept my offer
[17:34:38]: gollark: It's a terrible offer and I don't like you.
[17:34:44]: enes20enes: fine 3k krist
[17:34:53]: [D] gollark: screenshot-17_34_45-01_05_2022.png
[17:34:57]: gollark: ↑ next question
[17:35:23]: Lemmmy: huh this game has llamas?
[17:35:23]: [S] Luca_S: 1
[17:35:38]: Kc5f: 2
[17:35:39]: enes20enes: 4
[17:35:50]: [D] gollark: An interesting range of answers.
[17:35:52]: Kc5f: it's 100% 2
[17:36:01]: [S] Luca_S: No it's 1
[17:36:06]: Kc5f: No it's 2
[17:36:10]: [S] Luca_S: 1 even occurs twice
[17:36:11]: [D] gollark: screenshot-17_35_59-01_05_2022.png
[17:36:14]: [S] Luca_S: so it's doubly correct
[17:36:28]: [GD] Welcome!
[17:36:29]: [GD] ¨
[17:36:29]: [GD] Goodbye!
[17:36:29]: [GD] Entered¨Claim¨1-1
[17:36:29]: [GD] ¨
[17:36:45]: Kc5f: A mixture of 3 and 7
[17:37:04]: [S] Luca_S: 3 and 6
[17:37:09]: [D] gollark: Riiiight.
[17:37:26]: [D] gollark: screenshot-17_37_16-01_05_2022.png
[17:37:33]: [D] Lemmmy: unknown.png ah fuck ok lets do it
[17:37:38]: Kc5f: 4
[17:37:46]: [D] gollark: Doubtful.
[17:37:49]: enes20enes: 1
[17:37:54]: [D] gollark: Wrong.
[17:37:57]: enes20enes: 2
[17:37:57]: [S] Luca_S: 3
[17:38:02]: gollark: Implausible.
[17:38:04]: Kc5f: 2
[17:38:14]: gollark: 2 is 4 except different, so no.
[17:38:27]: Kc5f: 5
[17:38:41]: gollark: If spontaneous tetrational apiogenesis occurred within a critical GTech™ bee processing plant, what would you do?
[17:38:46]: enes20enes: gollark/2*7
[17:38:50]: Kc5f: hmm
[17:39:01]: [D] Lemmmy: laugh
[17:39:05]: gollark: Rude.
[17:39:13]: gollark: Spontaneous tetrational apiogenesis is very serious.
[17:39:15]: Kc5f: I would make sure that the apioforms are properly rotating purpendicular to the electroapiomagnetic feilds
[17:39:23]: gollark: What? That would WORSEN the issue!
[17:39:24]: [S] Luca_S: Try to save my and gollarks ass
[17:39:31]: gollark: In what way?
[17:39:51]: [S] Luca_S: Idk using a rocket to fly us to a new planet
[17:40:02]: You can create GriefPrevention claims with a golden shovel. Get one by running /kit gp!
[17:40:02]: Kc5f: impossible
[17:40:03]: gollark: Interesting! Good suggestion, although not as comprehensive as we'd like.
[17:40:04]: [D] Lemmmy: i would engage the logan circus
[17:40:05]: Kc5f: you need apioforms
[17:40:35]: [D] gollark: So this is actually quite an interesting question, so I figure I might as well tell you the intended answers.
[17:40:39]: enes20enes: ok gollark 5k krist
[17:40:47]: gollark: Obviously, any modern apiary has extremely extensive control and feedback systems.
[17:41:05]: gollark: Uncontained spontaneous tetrational apiogenesis can only occur after a critical breakdown of those systems.
[17:41:46]: gollark: One good way to deal with this is in fact to use "retroactive continuity".
[17:41:53]: [D] Lemmmy: hey gollark are you matt howell
[17:42:09]: gollark: This is where you move all sentient entities into a simulated universe which is identical in every way except for the incident.
[17:42:21]: gollark: Modern apiaries do in fact have safety systems providing this feature automatically.
[17:42:42]: Lemmmy: oh so a world rollback
[17:42:46]: gollark: Sure.
[17:43:15]: gollark: The other option, at least as long as it hasn't reached a λ-8 stage, is to manually override the control systems and stabilize the apiary yourself.
[17:44:05]: Kc5f: but heav said that rotating apioforms purpindicular to electroapiomagnetic feilds would lead to greater efficiency
[17:44:08]: gollark: This is quite hard, but thanks to recent advances, the high-bandwidth brain/computer interfacing needed for this rarely, if ever, causes complete brain shutdown.
[17:44:09]: [enes20enes ➡ me]: 5k krist?
[17:44:19]: + TotallyNotVirtIO joined the game
[17:44:29]: Lemmmy: hi
[17:44:33]: gollark: It's perpendicular, and that's true in normal conditions, but you do not want to do this in a critical bee excursion event.
[17:44:41]: Kc5f: ah
[17:45:09]: gollark: Besides, the bee velocity causers™ are probably close to failure in such an event, so that's not trivial.
[17:45:24]: [enes20enes ➡ me]: 5.5k krist?
[17:45:30]: gollark: Favourite UUID-type format?
[17:45:38]: Kc5f: yes
[17:45:38]: Lemmmy: v4 with high and low time parts swapped
[17:45:40]: [S] Luca_S: with dashes to read, without dashes to store
[17:45:48]: Kc5f: base64
[17:45:58]: Kc5f: sue me
[17:46:01]: gollark: Which fundamental force is best?
[17:46:06]: Lemmmy: drag
[17:46:09]: [S] Luca_S: strong nuclear
[17:46:11]: enes20enes: push
[17:46:14]: Lemmmy: counter terrorists
[17:46:15]: gollark: Oh yes, drag is VERY FUNDAMENTAL.
[17:46:15]: enes20enes: laser
[17:46:17]: Kc5f: gravity
[17:46:27]: [Lemmmy ➡ me]: 20k krist?
[17:46:28]: enes20enes: wait no no no no no
[17:46:30]: enes20enes: gollark
[17:46:31]: gollark: Favourite mathematical operation?
[17:46:34]: enes20enes: is the best
[17:46:36]: Lemmmy: mod
[17:46:42]: Kc5f: floor
[17:46:44]: Lignum: honestly mod is a banger yea
[17:46:45]: *Lignum is no longer AFK.
[17:46:45]: [me ➡ Lemmmy]: I'm pretty sure you already have access to all the GTech™ sites anyway because moderation.
[17:46:49]: [S] Luca_S: mod 2
[17:46:51]: enes20enes: floor+divide
[17:46:54]: [Lemmmy ➡ me]: i didnt know what we were bidding for i just wanted to put money down
[17:46:55]: TotallyNotVirtIO: being in a concrete room with sound filters enabled is weird
[17:46:56]: [me ➡ Lemmmy]: Except the secret one at y=158512 with the admin shields.
[17:46:57]: Lignum: mod prime is lovely
[17:47:02]: Lemmmy: tppos 0 158512 0
[17:47:06]: Lignum: homework is done god helped me
[17:47:07]: [S] Luca_S: Finite fields gang unite
[17:47:20]: [S] Luca_S: Lemmmy the fuck are you doing
[17:47:21]: gollark: Favourite frequency (sound)? Favourite frequency (electromagnetic radiation)?
[17:47:32]: Lemmmy: D5, gamma
[17:47:33]: Kc5f: hmm
[17:47:43]: Lemmmy: D5 at a=432 specifically let me calculate that hang on
[17:47:44]: Kc5f: I agree with lemmy
[17:47:47]: Kc5f: Infared is also cool
[17:47:59]: gollark: Luca_S?
[17:48:00]: [S] Luca_S: 1kHZ for sound, 300nm for radiation (Too lazy to calculate the frequency)
[17:48:01]: gollark: I see.
[17:48:13]: [D] gollark: screenshot-17_47_48-01_05_2022.png
[17:48:33]: Kc5f: 7
[17:48:46]: [S] Luca_S: am I allowed to use wolfram alpha?
[17:48:52]: gollark: Of course.
[17:48:59]: gollark: I mean, I can hardly stop you except by stopping you.
[17:49:02]: [S] Luca_S: 1
[17:49:05]: gollark: Now, you must all compete against me in cryptographically secured rock/paper/scissors.
[17:49:11]: gollark: You pick your move and a salt, then hash them.
[17:49:15]: Lemmmy: sorry for the delay
[17:49:16]: gollark: Then you disclose the hash and I also do that.
[17:49:16]: Kc5f: hmm
[17:49:17]: Lemmmy: 1153.3hz
[17:49:22]: [S] Luca_S: sounds good
[17:49:29]: gollark: We can then exchange the move/salt pairs and verify that the moves match.
[17:49:37]: Lignum: dont you traditionally use goldwasser-micali for that
[17:49:39]: Kc5f: 350A770C0EC9F353E1A5629895F374FDAA299876C3870C03FEB60EB4A3769D94
[17:49:42]: gollark: No.
[17:49:44]: Lignum: cos u know
[17:49:48]: Lemmmy: a729b47d4a7e0e954e0320dfbde94d7b20f06a6d9d92e90a508e8fa27b6f3cdc
[17:49:50]: Lignum: cryptographic hash functions dont exist
[17:49:52]: [D] gollark: 2391dd46a2229e0a3cb1264fbfc2a2b8bacaeaaf4e6cf45a7f9e5f0efbdc21c8
[17:49:55]: Lignum: well, none are known
[17:49:57]: Kc5f: wait lets put them in this
[17:50:00]: Kc5f: im not gonna type that
[17:50:01]: Kc5f: xf
[17:50:01]: Luca_S was slain by Zombie
[17:50:04]: You can change the colour of your claims on Dynmap with /claimcolour.
[17:50:04]: Kc5f: 350A770C0EC9F353E1A5629895F374FDAA299876C3870C03FEB60EB4A3769D94
[17:50:05]: [D] gollark: 2391dd46a2229e0a3cb1264fbfc2a2b8bacaeaaf4e6cf45a7f9e5f0efbdc21c8
[17:50:10]: [S] Luca_S: f3255eaa94120d5d2a51c569dda32bf446d881401487224ccb727ae358c30687
[17:50:12]: [D] Lemmmy: a729b47d4a7e0e954e0320dfbde94d7b20f06a6d9d92e90a508e8fa27b6f3cdc
[17:50:16]: gollark: Okay, time to verify them!
[17:50:18]: Kc5f: well now they are hashed soo
[17:50:25]: [D] gollark: DxzPEFimIU paper (I'm using SHA256, of course).
[17:50:26]: [D] Lemmmy: paper, NnuW2]E5qC6)pcRG, sha256
[17:50:31]: [S] Luca_S: my hash was generated by rockDjGg8zRmBX
[17:50:32]: [D] Lemmmy: (edited) paperNnuW2]E5qC6)pcRG, sha256
[17:50:53]: Kc5f: mine was just rock in sha256
[17:50:54]: [D] Lemmmy: bro
[17:51:13]: [D] gollark: Well, they all check out.
[17:51:28]: [S] Luca_S: got the same result
[17:51:28]: [D] gollark: I guess I win against Luca and Kc5f, and draw against Lemmmy.
[17:51:31]: Lemmmy: :)
[17:51:33]: [D] BlackDragon: 36a9e7f1c95b82ffb99743e0c5c4ce95d83c9a430aac59f84ef3cbfab6145068
[17:51:34]: Kc5f: :(
[17:51:36]: Lemmmy: you're too late bd
[17:51:41]: [D] BlackDragon: F
[17:51:49]: [D] BlackDragon: It was
[17:51:58]: [enes20enes ➡ me]: 6k krist?
[17:52:00]: gollark: Favourite method of vision?
[17:52:05]: Lignum: eye
[17:52:06]: [S] Luca_S: i bet gollark precalculated hashes
[17:52:09]: Kc5f: nose
[17:52:09]: enes20enes: nurel interface
[17:52:15]: [S] Luca_S: sonar
[17:52:18]: gollark: Well, yes, obviously I have a SHA256 inverter.
[17:52:24]: Lignum: i believe you
[17:52:34]: Lemmmy: division
[17:52:38]: gollark: It was very easy, you can find designs for inverters in lots of power electronics textbooks.
[17:52:40]: [S] Luca_S: oh yeah you were the first to put t in
[17:52:50]: Kc5f was burnt to a crisp whilst fighting Kc5f
[17:52:54]: Kc5f: F
[17:53:03]: [S] Luca_S: well you could try to calculate a collision so that you ahve one hash and could then go and pretend you had rock, paper or scissors
[17:53:14]: gollark: Maybe I should use MD5 next time to appear more suspicious.
[17:53:19]: Lemmmy: that would be a major event
[17:53:22]: Lignum: or just use GM and it's not an issue at all
[17:53:40]: Lignum: encrypting a couple bits is exactly what it's good for
[17:53:40]: [S] Luca_S: I think there are known sha256 collisions
[17:53:43]: Lemmmy: you should've used the krist address algorithm
[17:53:52]: gollark: There are also some ethical tests. Please bear with me, WITHOUT releasing any bears, while I find some.
[17:54:03]: Lemmmy: ok that one was kinda funny
[17:54:26]: Lemmmy: lignum i have 199 reviews to do
[17:54:35]: [D] gollark: cheryls-trolley-problem.png What is the most ethical thing to do in this situation?
[17:54:39]: [S] Luca_S: what are you reviewing?
[17:54:45]: Lignum: japan
[17:54:57]: Lemmmy: apply nuke to the situation
[17:55:23]: gollark: Unfortunately, all GTech™ nuclear weapons were used for recreational purposes last week.
[17:55:30]: Lemmmy: its ok i have my own
[17:55:30]: [D] BlackDragon: Destroy the field.
[17:55:36]: Lemmmy: always keep some handy
[17:55:44]: [D] BlackDragon: I have a solution.
[17:55:47]: gollark: Good, always make sure to be prepared!
[17:55:50]: [D] BlackDragon: Don't deploy the trolley.
[17:55:54]: gollark: No.
[17:56:04]: gollark: I mean, you could do that, actually.
[17:56:08]: Lemmmy: 199 japanese reviews
[17:56:09]: gollark: It would just be bad.
[17:56:11]: [S] Luca_S: wait that is not solvable actually
[17:56:13]: Lemmmy: i restarted wanikani so i went from level 20 to level 6
[17:56:13]: gollark: Yes it is.
[17:56:16]: [S] Luca_S: is it?
[17:56:22]: Lemmmy: its all easy but 199 is still a lot
[17:56:23]: + PC_Cat joined the game
[17:56:25]: gollark: Well, I solved it, and some other people did, although mistakes could have been made.
[17:56:31]: [S] Luca_S: becuase no matter the letter, bernard wouldn't know the number
[17:56:36]: [D] Knijn: unknown.png the amount of recommendations i get vs the one im interested in
[17:56:45]: [D] Lemmmy: of course theres boobs on there
[17:56:56]: gollark: Bernard knows the number, read the blurb.
[17:56:59]: [D] Knijn: lol
[17:57:12]: [D] Knijn: you don't want to know how many boobs i took from my recommended
[17:57:13]: *enes20enes has gone AFK.
[17:57:25]: [D] BlackDragon: https://i.blackdrgn.nl/qm4ta.png only interesting thing
[17:57:30]: Lemmmy: good you're not old enough to be looking at those
[17:57:34]: *enes20enes is no longer AFK.
[17:57:37]: - Lignum left the game
[17:57:44]: [D] Knijn: bruh
[17:57:46]: [D] Knijn: that quality
[17:57:50]: + Lignum joined the game
[17:57:54]: [D] Knijn: true lem
[17:58:03]: [D] Knijn: and even if i wanted to i don't fucking like them
[17:58:12]: enes20enes has requested that they teleport to you.
[17:58:12]: Accept - Deny
[17:58:13]: [D] Lemmmy: unknown.png hey lig do you know this one (it's easy)
[17:58:14]: [D] BlackDragon: Rundfunk is a good show.
[17:58:21]: Lignum: poop
[17:58:23]: [D] BlackDragon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gHgnDbXTCo What a plottwist. Also good luck with it being Dutch...
[17:58:24]: enes20enes has requested that they teleport to you.
[17:58:24]: Accept - Deny
[17:58:26]: [D] Lemmmy: not quite poop
[17:58:27]: [D] Lemmmy: but close
[17:58:31]: Lignum: shit
[17:58:32]: Lignum: diarrhea
[17:58:34]: Lignum: unko
[17:58:43]: [D] Lemmmy: if i tell you it says heaven energy
[17:58:45]: enes20enes has requested that they teleport to you.
[17:58:45]: Accept - Deny
[17:58:50]: [S] Luca_S: ok we know it's definitely not one of the pads in lane 5 and 6
[17:58:50]: Lignum: ohhh
[17:58:50]: [D] Knijn: poop
[17:58:50]: You have accepted the teleport request.
[17:58:52]: [D] Knijn: that's accurate
[17:58:54]: Lignum: i dont remmeber
[17:59:05]: [S] Luca_S: oherwise Bernard would know
[17:59:13]: enes20enes has requested that they teleport to you.
[17:59:13]: Accept - Deny
[17:59:17]: [S] Luca_S: and it can't be line A and B either
[17:59:30]: [D] znepb: my recommendations page is usually music, rarely coasters or minecraft
[17:59:37]: [D] znepb: sometimes ill get tech videos
[17:59:40]: [D] Knijn: damn
[17:59:43]: TotallyNotVirtIO: lem look at mc
[17:59:44]: [D] Lemmmy: what comes from the heavens
[17:59:48]: [D] znepb: youtube's reccomendations are wacky
[17:59:52]: There are no teleport requests for you to accept.
[17:59:52]: [D] Lemmmy: yeah i saw, i dont have an immediate response fro you
[17:59:58]: TotallyNotVirtIO: oh
[18:00:01]: [D] Knijn: yeah personally i just use subscriptions
[18:00:01]: Give us a call if you need help! +1 (904) 867-4600
[18:00:05]: [D] Lemmmy: i forwarded it to staff
[18:00:08]: [D] Knijn: unknown.png this thing scares me
[18:00:15]: [S] Luca_S: gollark the correct pad is C3
[18:00:21]: gollark: Good, good.
[18:00:38]: [S] Luca_S: I can't believe I actually just went through that lol
[18:00:40]: [D] znepb: youtube shorts is dumb
[18:00:49]: Kc5f: so true
[18:00:52]: [D] gollark: monty-hall-trolley-problem.png Here is your next ethical question. What do you do, as an ethics person who is ethical?
[18:00:55]: [D] znepb: every company is trying to rip off tiktok after it's success
[18:01:00]: Kc5f: yt shorts is 90% reposts
[18:01:07]: [D] znepb: yeah
[18:01:08]: Kc5f: and tiktok is also bad
[18:01:11]: gollark: Kc5f didn't answer, which was interpreted as "immediately destroy all human life on Earth and elsewhere", of course.
[18:01:12]: [D] BlackDragon: Kill them all.
[18:01:18]: Kc5f: oh sorry
[18:01:22]: Kc5f: I wasn't paying attention to chat
[18:01:26]: [S] Luca_S: yes, I'd switch tracks
[18:01:30]: gollark: I see.
[18:01:34]: [D] znepb: meta (reels), youtube (shorts), and reddit has turned it's video player into something pretty much identical to tiktok
[18:01:38]: [S] Luca_S: and then I'd start going after the psycho who's running these experiments
[18:01:48]: [D] BlackDragon: meta reels?
[18:01:49]: Kc5f: hmm
[18:01:50]: Kc5f: well
[18:01:50]: [D] gollark: convoluted-trolley-problem.jpg Consider the generalized trolley problem.
[18:01:54]: enes20enes: znepb would you please refill the gold farms krist balance?
[18:02:00]: [D] Knijn: These are the same questions that I got, wow
[18:02:03]: [D] Knijn: That amuses me
[18:02:06]: Kc5f: that tram does not seem to have any type of motionblur or tailwind, nor anybody on it
[18:02:12]: [D] gollark: Phase π/4 is very similar across applicants.
[18:02:13]: [D] znepb: instagram/facebook
[18:02:15]: *PC_Cat has gone AFK.
[18:02:27]: [D] BlackDragon: Throw a nuke at them.
[18:02:29]: Kc5f: It seems like it is stopped, so I would do nothing as everyone would be fine, and it would be blocking the track for all future trains
[18:02:37]: [D] BlackDragon: Its the solution to everything.
[18:02:41]: Kc5f: true
[18:02:42]: [D] znepb: chill out putin
[18:02:52]: + Yemmel joined the game
[18:02:57]: [D] znepb: yemmel?
[18:03:02]: gollark: Anyway, the trolley problems are quite important, as, as I said yesterday, in linear ethics all problems can be decomposed into a sum of basis trolley problems.
[18:03:10]: gollark: This is due to the principle of superposition.
[18:03:14]: [D] znepb: you kill them all
[18:03:20]: [D] znepb: because humanity is a virus on this earth
[18:03:28]: [D] znepb: i promise i'm not insane
[18:03:30]: enes20enes: hi znepb would you please refill the gold farms krist balance?
[18:03:32]: gollark: Humanity isn't a virus because viruses are not, strictly, ish, alive.
[18:03:37]: gollark: Among other things.
[18:03:43]: [D] znepb: lol i think i just did
[18:03:58]: [D] gollark: thomas-trolley.png What do you do in this ssituation?
[18:04:04]: [D] znepb: it has 10k in the wallet
[18:04:04]: *PC_Cat is no longer AFK.
[18:04:10]: enes20enes: wait it does?
[18:04:16]: [D] znepb: yeah
[18:04:18]: [S] Luca_S: how would the chinese man know about the trolley? He's obviously the one who started all of this, so let the bomb explode and kill trolley + chinese man
[18:04:23]: Yemmel: ^
[18:04:27]: [D] gollark: The Chinese man is omniscient.
[18:04:42]: [S] Luca_S: gollark I'd accept the power of Thomas the tank engine and run away begging for my life
[18:04:52]: gollark: Since they have an infinitely large book, and all infinite things are weird and therefore equivalent.
[18:04:54]: Kc5f: I would either run or applaud him
[18:05:02]: [D] Knijn: Yemmel
[18:05:05]: [D] Knijn: Could I get a flaming wang?
[18:05:07]: Kc5f: It depends on his godlike status
[18:05:20]: [D] gollark: double-slit-trolley-problem.png What do you do in this ethical scenario?
[18:05:23]: enes20enes: hi yemmel (aka lemmy)
[18:05:30]: [D] gollark: You may assume that you do, in fact, know of developments after Aristotle.
[18:05:37]: [D] BlackDragon: lemmmy is not yemmel
[18:05:41]: [D] BlackDragon: they coexist
[18:05:49]: enes20enes: they are both the same
[18:05:50]: Kc5f: uhhhh
[18:05:52]: Kc5f: I would run
[18:05:53]: Kc5f: just run
[18:06:07]: gollark: Noted.
[18:06:08]: PC_Cat: is there no GPS in nether?
[18:06:16]: gollark: There should be.
[18:06:18]: TotallyNotVirtIO: should be
[18:06:24]: PC_Cat: gps.locate -> nil
[18:06:34]: gollark: I operate a service, but it's not chunkloaded.
[18:06:40]: + RubenKnijn joined the game
[18:06:43]: [S] Luca_S: I mean it's obvious that if I do nothing due to the nonlinearity of causality everyone will die somewhere
[18:06:45]: PC_Cat: oh wait, i might need a modem
[18:06:48]: [S] Luca_S: so I collapse the trolleys
[18:07:12]: enes20enes: hi ruben
[18:07:14]: RubenKnijn: hello
[18:07:20]: + enes18enes joined the game
[18:07:21]: [D] gollark: But what if the Copenhagen interpretation is wrong?
[18:07:58]: [S] Luca_S: It's easy to see through this situation if you're able to think 4 dimensionally and can see the effect your actions have on parallel worlds
[18:08:04]: gollark: Oh, of course.
[18:08:15]: RubenKnijn: bruh
[18:08:28]: Kc5f: Can anybody sell me a large amount of spruce logs?
[18:08:43]: PC_Cat: enes got ~500 from goldfarm :O
[18:08:44]: [D] gollark: turing-trolley-problem.png What about this?
[18:08:47]: - RubenKnijn left the game
[18:09:18]: [S] Luca_S: This is a statistics thing
[18:09:25]: [S] Luca_S: run over the 1 person
[18:09:36]: [S] Luca_S: the other track contains 1.1 persons
[18:09:44]: [D] gollark: Well, some people are bad at expected value, see, so this is an important test.
[18:10:01]: The Krist commands are /balance, /deposit, and /pay!
[18:10:07]: Kc5f: I would not pull it
[18:10:19]: [D] gollark: trolley-problem-solutions.jpg What of these alternative solutions? Consider them.
[18:10:30]: Lignum: hmm the turing trolley problem would be more like, suppose a decision can be made, then a separate querolant trolley exists which behaves exactly the opposite way
[18:10:35]: Lignum: therefore any decision leads to a contradiction
[18:10:43]: gollark: Go construct that as a meme, then?!
[18:11:08]: Lignum: no
[18:11:09]: Lignum: im not a memer
[18:11:13]: [D] Anavrins: Pull the lever when the train is halfway over the split, train derails, I'm an engineer, not a philosopher
[18:11:13]: gollark: Yet.
[18:11:38]: [D] gollark: What if the trolley isn't actually rail-based, but a GTech™ hovercraft which just obeys switches and rails ironically?
[18:11:49]: [S] Luca_S: Anavrins what if the train derails and kills all 6 people?
[18:11:57]: [S] Luca_S: and maybe even some bystanders
[18:12:02]: Kc5f: I would not pull it, because it has a chance of hovering over people
[18:12:16]: gollark: Why would it do that? That would be unironic.
[18:12:38]: Kc5f: yes
[18:12:40]: *enes20enes has gone AFK.
[18:12:47]: *enes20enes is no longer AFK.
[18:13:11]: [D] Anavrins: What if it doesn't
[18:13:14]: [D] gollark: heavpoot-5.png You may be bored of trolley problems now, so consider this alternate ethical scenario.
[18:13:19]: [D] gollark: How ethical is this?
[18:13:19]: [S] Luca_S: Then it's good
[18:13:31]: Lignum: i hate ethics
[18:13:40]: [S] Luca_S: not ethical at all
[18:13:43]: [D] gollark: ethical-calculus.jpg
[18:13:46]: Kc5f: Gollark, do you like apples?
[18:13:51]: gollark: Yes.
[18:14:01]: Kc5f: then it would be not ethical
[18:14:02]: [S] Luca_S: gollark is helping everyone, so obliterating them is the worst moral act one can commit
[18:14:05]: gollark: Good, good. Any gollark-reducing action is unethical.
[18:14:18]: Kc5f: Yes
[18:14:23]: Kc5f: Unless you REALLY hate apples
[18:14:28]: [D] gollark: argument-hierarchy.png argument-hierarchy-2.png argument-hierarchy-3.jpg Please consider all three of these images thoroughly.
[18:14:33]: Lignum: no
[18:14:45]: [D] gollark: Oh no.
[18:15:02]: [D] gollark: Your lack of consideration has doomed us all.
[18:15:06]: Kc5f: Yeah
[18:15:11]: Kc5f: How dare you Lignum
[18:15:18]: [D] gollark: Now, ignoring the lack of consideration, consider this image instead.
[18:15:25]: [D] gollark: But only after considering the previous ones.
[18:15:25]: [D] gollark: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683607166967349248/947461090726510592/animal-welfare.png
[18:15:31]: Lignum: i learned this from my CS studies
[18:15:33]: [D] gollark: What are the implications of this for the steel industry?
[18:15:37]: Lignum: when a mathematician tells u to consider something
[18:15:38]: Lignum: u can just say no
[18:15:40]: gollark experienced kinetic energy
[18:15:41]: Kc5f: I agree
[18:15:46]: Returned you to your previous location.
[18:15:50]: gollark: I'm not a mathematician so you can't.
[18:16:05]: Lemmmy: ;spawn
[18:16:07]: [S] Luca_S: gollark the steel industry needs to stop using shrimp in its production
[18:16:14]: [S] Luca_S: however using chickens is fine
[18:16:17]: gollark: Uninspired. Kc5f?
[18:16:19]: Kc5f: Oh and Lemmmy, may I ask what is under spawn?
[18:16:24]: Kc5f: yes
[18:16:32]: gollark: What are the implications?
[18:16:41]: Kc5f: I agree with that image
[18:16:43]: Kc5f: that's all
[18:16:46]: gollark: Noted.
[18:17:02]: [D] gollark: https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/9m9Wu6l9jnH0oDfwabQ6z11tYWedgIGF9uwz3qlLty0/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/779006896761471010/943151710581432432/unknown.png?
[18:17:07]: [D] gollark: Which of the positions in this are good, if any|?|
[18:17:09]: PC_Cat: imagex-ext-2 hmm
[18:17:10]: Lemmmy: do the bananas listen on every channel?
[18:17:14]: Lignum: yep
[18:17:40]: [S] Luca_S: the diagonals
[18:17:45]: Kc5f: all of them are good
[18:17:57]: gollark: Interesting.
[18:18:01]: [D] znepb: this is how luau does typing https://i.znepb.me/Z5Ui.png
[18:18:06]: [D] Kc5f: unknown.png
[18:18:06]: [D] znepb: it's literally identical to ts
[18:18:17]: Lignum: well lua is identical to js so that makes sense
[18:18:20]: [D] Kc5f: how dare he
[18:18:21]: gollark: Well, we certainly won't hire Witt.
[18:18:26]: Kc5f: Good
[18:18:31]: Kc5f: He does not deserve to be hired
[18:18:36]: [D] znepb: luau is a strange child between lua and ts
[18:18:53]: Lemmmy: .
[18:19:27]: gollark: A bee with charge 2 Coulombs is at rest in a uniform electric field of strength 5 V m^-1. If a bee has mass 1g, which it might, then how long does it take to travel 1258 km?
[18:19:45]: Kc5f: 1 lightnanosecond
[18:19:50]: [S] Luca_S: i knew how to solve that once
[18:19:52]: gollark: Doubtful.
[18:19:56]: Lignum: i knew how to solve that once
[18:20:03]: You can create GriefPrevention claims with a golden shovel. Get one by running /kit gp!
[18:20:05]: gollark: Light-nanoseconds aren't actually a time unit.
[18:20:10]: Kc5f: oh
[18:20:11]: Kc5f: uhh
[18:20:26]: Kc5f: -5 seconds
[18:20:30]: gollark: I see.
[18:20:39]: gollark: Not even using imaginary time? Very sad.
[18:20:58]: [D] gollark: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/461970193728667648/970016222596960386/20220430_084616.jpg?
[18:21:03]: [S] Luca_S: gollark do we need to assume relativistic conditions?
[18:21:05]: [D] gollark: Knowing this, do YOU trust computers?!?!?!?!?
[18:21:18]: Kc5f: yes
[18:21:20]: [S] Luca_S: I don't trust computers now, so I doubt I will after knowing whatever that image says
[18:21:20]: gollark: Oh yes, assume the speed of light is 100 metres per second.
[18:21:27]: Kc5f: Computers must be trusted at all times.
[18:22:00]: gollark: Next question: What is the most optimal regular polyhedron?
[18:22:09]: Kc5f: Is that a 2d or 3d shape?
[18:22:11]: *enes20enes has gone AFK.
[18:22:13]: gollark: 3D.
[18:22:15]: gollark experienced kinetic energy
[18:22:16]: Kc5f: oh
[18:22:18]: Kc5f: well
[18:22:37]: Kc5f: The Rhombicosidodecahedron is the most optimal
[18:22:45]: Lignum: icosahedron because its a 5-regular planar graph and those dont grow in ur garden every day
[18:23:06]: [D] gollark: crab-alignment-chart.png Which of these subcategories is crabs?
[18:23:17]: gollark: * are, even
[18:23:19]: Kc5f: botom right
[18:23:29]: gollark: Any other answers?
[18:23:42]: [S] Luca_S: gollark the answer is about 15.86 seconds
[18:23:56]: Kc5f: \crab\g
[18:23:56]: [S] Luca_S: gollark triangle
[18:24:02]: Kc5f: no wait
[18:24:03]: gollark: In what reference frame?
[18:24:06]: Kc5f: \.*crab\g
[18:24:08]: [S] Luca_S: radical/radical
[18:24:28]: Kc5f: Anything matching \.*crab\g is a crab.
[18:24:31]: [S] Luca_S: gollark it's actually a non relativistic result
[18:24:39]: [S] Luca_S: way too lazy to calculate it relativistically
[18:24:40]: gollark: But I said to assume the speed of light is 100 metres per second.
[18:24:49]: [D] BlackDragon: crab
[18:24:54]: [S] Luca_S: well that doesn't matter if I assume relativistic stuff doesn't exists
[18:24:57]: gollark: Good idea.
[18:24:59]: gollark: If you were interviewing a prospective GTech™ employee, what question would you ask them and what would their response be?
[18:25:00]: You have warped to the spawn point for world world.
[18:25:45]: [S] Luca_S: why are you crazy enough to want to work here?
[18:25:52]: Kc5f: me?
[18:26:01]: gollark: The prospective GTech™ employee.
[18:26:03]: gollark: Ans the answer?
[18:26:07]: gollark: * And
[18:26:09]: gollark: * from them
[18:26:12]: [S] Luca_S: corporate espionage
[18:26:16]: gollark: I see.
[18:26:18]: Kc5f: hmm
[18:26:23]: Kc5f was slain by Enderman
[18:26:34]: [S] Luca_S: i kind of want to relativistically solve that bee question right now
[18:26:44]: Kc5f: I would ask them if gtech and gollark is good
[18:26:49]: Kc5f: if they say no we ban them
[18:26:52]: [GD] You have reached HydroNitrogen's Headquarters
[18:27:01]: gollark: No, you're meant to know what their response would be.
[18:27:10]: Kc5f: Oh, then yes
[18:27:26]: gollark: What is your favourite of your programming projects?
[18:27:33]: Kc5f: hmm
[18:27:55]: Kc5f: my random meme selector from Youtube, which is frontend and backend written in JS
[18:29:01]: gollark experienced kinetic energy
[18:29:06]: Kc5f: science!
[18:29:27]: gollark: Luca_S?
[18:29:45]: [S] Luca_S: good questions
[18:29:56]: [S] Luca_S: I'M trying to relativistaclly solve the bee question rn tho
[18:30:02]: You can create street signs with a computer by running streetsign.
[18:30:07]: gollark: I see. We'll have a 5-minute break for apioresearch.
[18:30:14]: Kc5f: k
[18:30:38]: [GD] Welcome to Switchcraft's Pulling-down Hydroelectric Power Facility
[18:30:41]: [GD] <KTC> You are now entering the Garden
[18:30:42]: [GD] <KTC> You are now entering the Main Building
[18:31:17]: *PC_Cat has gone AFK.
[18:33:46]: Lemmmy: scenario: imagine you're playing minecraft 1.18 with computercraft and quark. what peripherals (including from plethora) are essential to your gameplay?
[18:33:57]: Kc5f: laser
[18:34:22]: [D] BlackDragon: Introspection
[18:34:36]: TotallyNotVirtIO: and we're back at 12 tps
[18:34:37]: TotallyNotVirtIO: neic
[18:34:48]: *PC_Cat is no longer AFK.
[18:34:48]: Kc5f: Anyone have a bunch of extra modems?
[18:34:54]: gollark: Obviously, my entire neural interface.
[18:34:56]: gollark: Also chests.
[18:34:56]: Lemmmy: all of the plethora classics of course (neural interface, overlay, introspection, block/entity scanner, laser)
[18:35:05]: Lemmmy: anything else, perhaps that switchcraft doesn't have?
[18:35:14]: PC_Cat: openperipherals or what is it called
[18:35:23]: Lemmmy: but what peripherals from it
[18:35:25]: Lemmmy: thinking of actual peripherals, not mods
[18:35:31]: PC_Cat: oh uh
[18:35:47]: gollark: Hologram projectors like OC has would be cool.
[18:35:49]: *Luca_S has gone AFK.
[18:35:52]: PC_Cat: +1
[18:36:26]: gollark: Also, I need the ability to read the genes of Forestry bees, for automatic bee eugenics machines.
[18:36:33]: gollark: You can do this with Plethora, of course.
[18:37:23]: PC_Cat: chunkloader turtle
[18:37:30]: gollark experienced kinetic energy
[18:37:43]: PC_Cat: Ridable turtle
[18:37:45]: gollark: Obviously redstone integrator good.
[18:38:18]: [S] Luca_S: oh god this is bad
[18:38:18]: *Luca_S is no longer AFK.