[18:31:32]: TotallyNotVirtIO: did you know that there are blaze lanterns
[18:31:52]: *NerdSnoh is no longer AFK.
[18:32:31]: *6_4 is no longer AFK.
[18:33:14]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i got a wither skull without looting
[18:36:06]: *gollark has gone AFK.
[18:36:20]: scmcgowen: you don't need a shovel when you have a freakin' laser beam
[18:36:36]: TotallyNotVirtIO: thats why i only have a sword and a pickaxe
[18:36:47]: scmcgowen: I also have an axe
[18:36:53]: *NerdSnoh has gone AFK.
[18:37:00]: TotallyNotVirtIO: my sword is literally only for looting
[18:37:11]: scmcgowen: but that is almost broken and only there from early game
[18:38:18]: *6_4 has gone AFK.
[18:38:33]: *NerdSnoh is no longer AFK.
[18:38:44]: gollark: Oh no.
[18:38:44]: *gollark is no longer AFK.
[18:38:45]: gollark: Oh bee.
[18:38:52]: gollark: Oh no my RAM.
[18:39:26]: TotallyNotVirtIO: did you open chromium?
[18:39:51]: gollark: No, I ran avifenc.
[18:40:04]: You can install MBS, a Mildly Better Shell, on your computer by running mbs install.
[18:40:35]: ItzKeneh: whats the pastebin for opus again?
[18:40:42]: [D] PC_Cat: !faq opus:i
[18:40:42]: FAQ/opus:pastebin: pastebin run UzGHLbNC
[18:40:50]: ItzKeneh: preesh
[18:41:02]: *6_4 is no longer AFK.
[18:41:06]: [D] PC_Cat: np
[18:41:59]: *DistantTemple is no longer AFK.
[18:42:31]: *9551Dev is no longer AFK.
[18:43:31]: - ItzKeneh left the game
[18:43:52]: TotallyNotVirtIO: im not scared of falling into lava in the nether
[18:43:55]: TotallyNotVirtIO: im scared of falling
[18:43:55]: scmcgowen: why are the hostile mob spawn rates so terrible right now
[18:44:05]: TotallyNotVirtIO: arent they always like that
[18:44:19]: TotallyNotVirtIO: also if you're talking about the nether i stole em all
[18:44:27]: scmcgowen: I'm trying to find creepers and there are no creepers I can see
[18:44:38]: TotallyNotVirtIO: thats a certified sc moment
[18:44:48]: + ItzKeneh joined the game
[18:44:50]: TotallyNotVirtIO: just eat a cursed bead
[18:44:52]: *gollark has gone AFK.
[18:44:55]: TotallyNotVirtIO: doul bead*
[18:45:00]: TotallyNotVirtIO: soul*
[18:45:01]: scmcgowen: what does that do
[18:45:14]: TotallyNotVirtIO: give you the curse effect
[18:45:23]: TotallyNotVirtIO: well "debuff"
[18:45:42]: scmcgowen: do you have one?
[18:45:45]: TotallyNotVirtIO: 11
[18:45:55]: scmcgowen: could I have one of them
[18:46:06]: 6_4: my shop sells them
[18:46:06]: TotallyNotVirtIO: just kill wraiths
[18:47:12]: TotallyNotVirtIO: blazes
[18:47:16]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i just have fire res
[18:47:29]: TotallyNotVirtIO: eat
[18:47:35]: *9551Dev has gone AFK.
[18:47:39]: scmcgowen: I'll do it in the overworld to get creepers
[18:48:22]: *kotahu has gone AFK.
[18:48:32]: TotallyNotVirtIO: btw katze
[18:48:35]: scmcgowen: ?
[18:48:43]: TotallyNotVirtIO: withers are like the easiest mob to kill on here
[18:48:50]: scmcgowen: what?
[18:48:52]: scmcgowen: how
[18:48:54]: TotallyNotVirtIO: the wither
[18:48:55]: TotallyNotVirtIO: the boss
[18:48:56]: scmcgowen: also no
[18:49:00]: TotallyNotVirtIO: is the easiest mob to kill
[18:49:02]: scmcgowen: creepers are
[18:49:06]: TotallyNotVirtIO: no cap
[18:49:10]: TotallyNotVirtIO: its the wither
[18:49:20]: scmcgowen: one full power laser to a creeper and its dead
[18:49:21]: TotallyNotVirtIO: if i get a skull ill show you
[18:49:37]: *DistantTemple has gone AFK.
[18:50:01]: You can change the colour of your claims on Dynmap with /claimcolour.
[18:50:53]: TotallyNotVirtIO: sheesh a laser beam is like a fuckin lmg when fully charged
[18:51:12]: scmcgowen: what do you expect
[18:51:45]: - 6_4 left the game
[18:52:13]: TotallyNotVirtIO: imagine not having a laser
[18:54:18]: TotallyNotVirtIO: btw katz
[18:54:22]: scmcgowen: ?
[18:54:24]: TotallyNotVirtIO: looting works with lasers
[18:54:29]: TotallyNotVirtIO: just hold a looting sword
[18:54:38]: scmcgowen: not that it matters, I dont' have looting
[18:55:04]: TotallyNotVirtIO: get it
[18:56:39]: + Kc5f joined the game
[18:58:09]: - Kc5f left the game
[18:58:20]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i have a stack o boners
[18:58:26]: *DistantTemple is no longer AFK.
[18:58:52]: *9551Dev is no longer AFK.
[19:00:01]: 9551Dev was vapourised by TotallyNotVirtIO
[19:00:04]: The Krist commands are /balance, /deposit, and /pay!
[19:00:04]: scmcgowen: curse isn't even a challenge
[19:00:16]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i like how one power 5 laser is enough to kill a full diamond man in one shot
[19:00:25]: scmcgowen: what?
[19:00:32]: scmcgowen: is damage boosted on SC
[19:00:40]: TotallyNotVirtIO: every time i shoot 9551 he fucking dies
[19:00:44]: + Kc5f joined the game
[19:00:57]: scmcgowen: by default power 5 is 20 damage
[19:01:01]: TotallyNotVirtIO: yes
[19:01:25]: TotallyNotVirtIO: you cant kill me that easily
[19:02:37]: gollark: I can't be killed with one laser shot. Possibly because my armor is enchanted too.
[19:02:38]: *gollark is no longer AFK.
[19:03:07]: ItzKeneh was vapourised by NerdSnoh
[19:03:13]: ItzKeneh: oh
[19:03:26]: *DistantTemple has gone AFK.
[19:03:29]: TotallyNotVirtIO: ima go terrorize some people ig
[19:03:53]: TotallyNotVirtIO: skull
[19:04:25]: + Lemmmy joined the game
[19:04:33]: TotallyNotVirtIO: hello lemmmy
[19:04:37]: scmcgowen: I am still cursed
[19:04:42]: TotallyNotVirtIO: so am i
[19:04:44]: TotallyNotVirtIO: just tp here
[19:04:48]: TotallyNotVirtIO: its half an hour
[19:04:53]: TotallyNotVirtIO: shit hold up
[19:04:55]: *9551Dev has gone AFK.
[19:05:08]: TotallyNotVirtIO: ima just
[19:05:15]: scmcgowen has made the advancement [Withering Heights]
[19:05:18]: scmcgowen: what
[19:05:28]: Kc5f: Anyone have like 3 beehives I can buy?
[19:05:50]: TotallyNotVirtIO: see
[19:05:57]: TotallyNotVirtIO: easiest mob to kill
[19:06:06]: scmcgowen: now who is gonna get the star?
[19:06:13]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i farmed the skull
[19:06:14]: TotallyNotVirtIO: s
[19:06:17]: scmcgowen: OK
[19:06:21]: TotallyNotVirtIO: also its like
[19:06:29]: TotallyNotVirtIO: really damn easy to kill a wither
[19:06:44]: TotallyNotVirtIO: dont even need no bedrock roof
[19:06:48]: scmcgowen was vapourised by TotallyNotVirtIO
[19:06:52]: TotallyNotVirtIO: no more curse
[19:07:03]: + the_shadow_yt joined the game
[19:07:25]: scmcgowen: now I have a /home for this wither arena
[19:07:29]: TotallyNotVirtIO: bruh
[19:07:34]: TotallyNotVirtIO: 13 beads
[19:07:37]: TotallyNotVirtIO: take tme
[19:07:38]: *gollark has gone AFK.
[19:07:44]: TotallyNotVirtIO was vapourised by scmcgowen
[19:08:26]: scmcgowen: I wonder if I could make a farm that uses these soul beads
[19:08:49]: scmcgowen: they last a whole MC day
[19:08:58]: scmcgowen is now napping. (1/6)
[19:09:10]: TotallyNotVirtIO: they also allow mobs to spawn regardless of light
[19:09:16]: scmcgowen: exactly
[19:09:34]: scmcgowen: I might build a farm that uses them
[19:10:04]: Check out the new ComputerCraft Wiki! https://tweaked.cc
[19:10:44]: *9551Dev is no longer AFK.
[19:11:02]: *Lemmmy has gone AFK.
[19:11:40]: NerdSnoh was vapourised by ItzKeneh
[19:11:54]: scmcgowen: oh, apparently my code lets me hold the button down to machinegun fire it
[19:12:04]: TotallyNotVirtIO: yes
[19:12:16]: TotallyNotVirtIO: its a fucking lmg
[19:12:16]: scmcgowen: my code is not yours
[19:12:17]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i told you
[19:12:32]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i knew you didnt add a safety
[19:12:40]: *Lemmmy is no longer AFK.
[19:12:50]: scmcgowen: a safety?
[19:12:57]: scmcgowen: why would I add a safety
[19:13:02]: TotallyNotVirtIO: the dont fucking lmg this shit thing
[19:14:26]: scmcgowen: I ain't cursed but now mob spawning works
[19:14:38]: TotallyNotVirtIO: normally?
[19:14:43]: scmcgowen: yes
[19:14:52]: *kotahu is no longer AFK.
[19:14:53]: TotallyNotVirtIO: wdym
[19:15:10]: scmcgowen: there are mobs at night near my base
[19:15:13]: TotallyNotVirtIO: yeah
[19:15:15]: TotallyNotVirtIO: its night
[19:15:24]: scmcgowen: there weren't the past few nights
[19:15:30]: TotallyNotVirtIO: sc moment
[19:16:42]: Lemmmy: good morning
[19:16:48]: TotallyNotVirtIO: hello lem
[19:16:55]: Kc5f: it's 13:16 for me :P
[19:17:00]: Lemmmy: 19:16 here
[19:17:12]: 9551Dev: 20:17 here
[19:17:16]: TotallyNotVirtIO: 20:17 here
[19:17:27]: [D] 6_4: 14:17 here
[19:17:45]: scmcgowen: wait, 9551 and VirtIO have the same timezone
[19:17:51]: TotallyNotVirtIO: yes
[19:17:55]: *DistantTemple is no longer AFK.
[19:18:21]: TotallyNotVirtIO: why the hell does os.setAlarm exist in sc
[19:18:21]: TotallyNotVirtIO: like
[19:18:25]: TotallyNotVirtIO: who the hell needs that shit
[19:18:30]: - 9551Dev left the game
[19:19:04]: NerdSnoh fell from a high place
[19:19:44]: Kc5f: Anyone have a beehive I could buy?
[19:19:52]: [D] 6_4: i might have some
[19:20:04]: Check out the new ComputerCraft Wiki! https://tweaked.cc
[19:20:12]: scmcgowen: what is os.setAlarm
[19:20:23]: + 6_4 joined the game
[19:20:28]: [D] 6_4: scmcgowen: it sets an alarm
[19:20:30]: TotallyNotVirtIO: sends an event at an ingame time
[19:20:31]: Kc5f: wait I found one
[19:20:34]: TotallyNotVirtIO: thats it
[19:20:52]: Kc5f: anyone have a silk touch pickaxe to mine it?
[19:21:10]: 6_4: are you sure you need a beehive specifically, and not a queen bee?
[19:21:17]: Kc5f: I have a queen bee
[19:21:30]: 6_4: you might need an apiary
[19:21:35]: NerdSnoh was vapourised by ItzKeneh
[19:21:40]: scmcgowen: why
[19:21:41]: Kc5f: wait those are different?
[19:21:44]: 6_4: yes
[19:21:51]: Kc5f: How do you make one?
[19:21:53]: 6_4: i could sell you an apiary for 5
[19:22:10]: ItzKeneh was burnt to a crisp whilst fighting NerdSnoh
[19:22:12]: TotallyNotVirtIO: Kc5f jsut craft it
[19:22:15]: TotallyNotVirtIO: look at jei
[19:22:23]: scmcgowen: its planks and item frames
[19:22:31]: Kc5f: Oh wow
[19:22:33]: Kc5f: those are pretty cheap
[19:22:39]: scmcgowen: 6 planks on either side and 3 item frames down the middle
[19:22:56]: *DistantTemple has gone AFK.
[19:23:26]: Welcome BorkusWolf to the server!
[19:23:26]: + BorkusWolf joined the game
[19:23:29]: Lemmmy: welcome!
[19:23:29]: ItzKeneh: welcome
[19:23:33]: kotahu: welcome!
[19:23:35]: 6_4: welcome
[19:23:45]: ItzKeneh fell from a high place
[19:23:45]: Kc5f: welcome
[19:23:51]: NerdSnoh fell from a high place
[19:23:59]: the_shadow_yt: welcome friend
[19:24:08]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i like how only 60% of the population said welcome
[19:24:17]: 6_4 fell from a high place
[19:24:19]: Lemmmy: i wonder how the luckperms node cache works
[19:24:21]: scmcgowen: I am now smelting tons of gold to hopefully have enough for 9551's java error trophy
[19:24:35]: Lemmmy: is it self-managing? is it smart? does it just clear the cache when anything updates
[19:24:38]: ItzKeneh fell from a high place
[19:24:47]: Lemmmy: that last case would suck hard because GD updates LP meta often
[19:25:06]: TotallyNotVirtIO: lem why care
[19:25:10]: scmcgowen: I don't know that much about more advanced luckperms
[19:25:47]: scmcgowen: I have used it on a couple of servers but know not much about their advanced stuff, maybe ask in their Discord
[19:25:55]: [D] Lemmmy: unknown.png currently to get meta you have to do something like this
[19:26:14]: TotallyNotVirtIO: that looks kinda cursed
[19:26:19]: [D] Lemmmy: unknown.png
[19:26:35]: TotallyNotVirtIO: wait why does gd update luckperms
[19:26:50]: scmcgowen: I have no clue
[19:26:56]: 6_4: Kristweb version 2 beta is now available at https://krist.club/ ‚‚‚ New Recycle Bin has been added to the Center, Egg on frequency White/Orange/White.
[19:26:56]: TotallyNotVirtIO: im asking lem
[19:26:57]: Lemmmy: griefdefender stores some of its metadata in luckperms meta now (claim options and player options)
[19:27:04]: NerdSnoh has made the advancement [Stone Age]
[19:27:08]: TotallyNotVirtIO: bru
[19:27:09]: Lemmmy: i dont know why either to be honest
[19:27:15]: Lemmmy: strange choice
[19:27:21]: 6_4: you should try storing nbt data in luckperms
[19:27:36]: TotallyNotVirtIO: that'd be mad cursed
[19:27:37]: Lemmmy: modern versions of MC have a cool library for data storage called Cardinal Components
[19:27:54]: TotallyNotVirtIO: does "modern" include a.12
[19:27:55]: Lemmmy: which let you attach data classes to entities, worlds, blocks, items etc
[19:27:56]: TotallyNotVirtIO: 1.12*
[19:28:06]: scmcgowen: I wish we had CoreProtect and gave us all the inspect tool
[19:28:07]: Lemmmy: and serialise it as part of their NBT
[19:28:17]: Lemmmy: we have Prism, which is Sponge's alternative to CoreProtect (now nuked from github)
[19:28:18]: Kc5f: I agree scmc
[19:28:23]: Kc5f: ohh
[19:28:24]: 6_4: huh, the news marquee only has three headlines now
[19:28:26]: + 9551Dev joined the game
[19:28:33]: TotallyNotVirtIO: why is coreprotect nuked from gh
[19:28:33]: Lemmmy: however i can't go into the specifics of its drawbacks
[19:28:47]: 6_4: also, i hadn't noticed this monitor above kepler's shop before
[19:28:50]: Lemmmy: i'm working on my own block/inventory logging plugin that uses the Clickhouse database
[19:29:00]: Lemmmy: which is highly compressed and optimized for upwarrds of 1 million writes per second
[19:29:06]: Lemmmy: i know this because i was accidentally writing 1 million rows per second
[19:29:13]: TotallyNotVirtIO: bru
[19:29:24]: 9551Dev: hello.
[19:29:28]: scmcgowen: one of the features I like of CoreProtect is a feature accessed by /co i, it lets you see who placed a block
[19:29:35]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i was just about to ask "how mad active do you think sc will get"
[19:29:37]: Lemmmy: yeah, prism has the asme thing
[19:29:47]: Lemmmy: TotallyNotVirtIO: we currently see anywhere from 500 to 3500 events per second
[19:29:54]: scmcgowen: one of the old vanilla SMPs gave us all access to /co i
[19:29:55]: Lemmmy: thats just events that are tracked by GD
[19:30:01]: The Krist commands are /balance, /deposit, and /pay!
[19:30:10]: TotallyNotVirtIO: does that include every damn step or somethin
[19:30:21]: Lemmmy: 90% of that is fluids
[19:30:26]: Lemmmy: hang on let me pull up the spreadsheet
[19:30:28]: TotallyNotVirtIO: well that explains it
[19:30:30]: 6_4: you should ban fluids from the server
[19:30:34]: TotallyNotVirtIO: ^
[19:30:56]: [D] Lemmmy: it changes very rapidly but heres an outlook on a few samples
[19:30:57]: [D] Lemmmy: unknown.png
[19:31:18]: Lemmmy: this was after i fixed a few broken cobble generators
[19:31:37]: TotallyNotVirtIO: so this is what red namers do on switchcraft
[19:31:39]: Lemmmy: in general, turtle movement (or attempted turtle movement, even if it fails) is highly expensive
[19:31:47]: - Kc5f left the game
[19:31:50]: 6_4: red name means 'extremely mean'
[19:31:50]: Lemmmy: fluid movement is inexpensive but is very spammy (6_4 learned this the hard way)
[19:31:59]: Lemmmy: inexpensive on its own*
[19:32:03]: TotallyNotVirtIO: lemme make 7773213 turtles spam turtle.forward() every tick
[19:32:06]: Lemmmy: in aggregate its even worse than turtles because there's so much of it
[19:32:27]: Lemmmy: a flowing liquid block on a claim boundary turns a 20 MB per day mysql database into a 3 GB per day one
[19:32:38]: TotallyNotVirtIO: wha
[19:32:39]: *ItzKeneh has gone AFK.
[19:32:55]: Lemmmy: coreprotect and prism typically use mysql or h2 as their backing database, neither of which are optimised for the volume of event logging of a Sponge server
[19:32:59]: scmcgowen: a single flowing liquid block?
[19:33:18]: TotallyNotVirtIO: that sounds mad funny
[19:33:26]: Lemmmy: prism used to have mongo support then they broke it and the devs disappeared off the face of the earth and deleted it from the internet
[19:33:35]: Lemmmy: though mongo honestly isnt much better anyway
[19:33:37]: 6_4: (mongo is web scale)
[19:33:46]: Lemmmy: but mongo is at least able to scale yeah lol
[19:34:13]: kotahu: mongo has scary licensing
[19:34:16]: Lemmmy: if prism's postgres driver worked, we could use cockroachdb or clickhouse
[19:34:51]: TotallyNotVirtIO: is prism closed source or did you just not get its source code
[19:34:56]: Lemmmy: cockroachdb is the only good scalable SQL/relational database and clickhouse is hyper optimized for analytics-like databases
[19:34:57]: *9551Dev has gone AFK.
[19:35:00]: kotahu: the repo was nuked
[19:35:04]: Lemmmy: i have its source code, i just dont want to maintain it
[19:35:10]: Lemmmy: somebody else has a fork on github thats still public
[19:35:26]: 6_4: Lemmmy: how much krist would I need to pay you to move a new switchmarket to the highest priority on your todo list
[19:35:28]: kotahu: one of the original devs is working on a version for spigot now
[19:35:51]: *gollark is no longer AFK.
[19:36:10]: scmcgowen: I would really love it if we, the people of SC got prism's inspect tool. it would be so helpful in determining who placed random signs right outside our claim without having someone reference the KST address if there is one
[19:36:23]: Lemmmy: well heres the thing
[19:36:26]: Lemmmy: it doesnt work :)
[19:36:35]: scmcgowen: what?
[19:36:38]: 6_4: don't staff have a 'recent-changes-to-blocks' command?
[19:36:42]: [D] Lemmmy: unknown.png
[19:36:45]: kotahu: it kind of works
[19:36:46]: *DistantTemple is no longer AFK.
[19:36:52]: kotahu: sometimes
[19:37:02]: BorkusWolf has made the advancement [Monster Hunter]
[19:37:06]: TotallyNotVirtIO: lem i want that mod for da smooth font
[19:37:11]: scmcgowen: try on any wood block
[19:37:12]: Lemmmy: guess what its called TotallyNotVirtIO
[19:37:16]: TotallyNotVirtIO: smooth font
[19:37:20]: 6_4: helvetica?
[19:37:32]: TotallyNotVirtIO: am i right
[19:37:34]: TotallyNotVirtIO: ?
[19:37:57]: scmcgowen: but not that I placed this wood
[19:38:07]: scmcgowen: well damn
[19:38:28]: scmcgowen: coreprotect did let me do that, also how did you know I was trying to tpahere you
[19:38:30]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i hate how long it takes for the server to realize i pressed b
[19:38:36]: Lemmmy: the problem is that sponge's overall event system is so complex that its not easy for mods that integrate tightly with it (griefprevention, griefdefender, prism) to keep up with its changes
[19:38:44]: Lemmmy: the reason griefdefender works at all is because its made by the same guy that made the event system in the first place
[19:38:51]: Lemmmy: scmcgowen: i see all commands in chat
[19:38:58]: scmcgowen: oh
[19:39:02]: Lemmmy: my name has 3 m's for future reference :)
[19:39:08]: 6_4: Lemmmy spies on everything
[19:39:16]: TotallyNotVirtIO: lem why 3 m's
[19:39:20]: Lemmmy: 2 was taken
[19:39:23]: TotallyNotVirtIO: bru
[19:39:25]: Lemmmy: by the lead singer of motorhead
[19:39:27]: Lemmmy: rest in peace
[19:39:32]: TotallyNotVirtIO: what about 1 m
[19:39:39]: Lemmmy: thats blocked by most prrofanity filters
[19:39:43]: TotallyNotVirtIO: what
[19:39:47]: Lemmmy: for having an edit distance of 2 from 'lamey'
[19:39:50]: Lemmmy: or was it 'limey'
[19:39:51]: Lemmmy: cant remember
[19:39:56]: *ItzKeneh is no longer AFK.
[19:39:56]: TotallyNotVirtIO: and what do it mean
[19:40:01]: Check out the new ComputerCraft Wiki! https://tweaked.cc
[19:40:03]: Lemmmy: apparently its some really obscure slang that made its way into filter lists
[19:40:10]: TotallyNotVirtIO: bruuuh
[19:40:19]: kotahu: 4 m's isn't taken though
[19:40:27]: Lemmmy: dont give them ideas, they've already tried to steal a domain from us
[19:40:32]: TotallyNotVirtIO: omw to change my name to lemmmmy
[19:40:36]: Lemmmy: that is a bannable offence
[19:40:41]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i know
[19:40:43]: TotallyNotVirtIO: impersonation
[19:40:45]: TotallyNotVirtIO: of admins
[19:40:45]: Lemmmy: :D
[19:40:47]: TotallyNotVirtIO: or smth
[19:40:47]: scmcgowen: wait who tried to steal a domain?
[19:40:52]: *gollark has gone AFK.
[19:41:02]: Lemmmy: somebody noticed that our webserver fork didnt have a domain and i beat them to registering it by 1 minute
[19:41:09]: 6_4: oh, casket?
[19:41:11]: Lemmmy: yeah lol
[19:41:12]: TotallyNotVirtIO: what a chad
[19:41:16]: scmcgowen: even if we had the username lemmmmy, we could just not use it in SC
[19:41:22]: Lemmmy: i only bought it because i knew otherwise someone here would and i dont trust that
[19:41:26]: 6_4: how did you know that you beat them to registering it by 1 minute
[19:41:28]: Lemmmy: i've since transferred it to the casket devs
[19:41:29]: BorkusWolf has made the advancement [Stone Age]
[19:41:33]: Lemmmy: because they showed me lol
[19:41:46]: 6_4: and are you not going to tell us who it was?
[19:41:51]: scmcgowen: webserver fork?
[19:41:51]: Lemmmy: no because i dont remember
[19:41:53]: TotallyNotVirtIO: lem i dont see impersonating admins being prohibited on rules.switchcraft.pw
[19:41:59]: TotallyNotVirtIO: nvm
[19:42:00]: 6_4: 6.8
[19:42:09]: 6_4: cmd+f 'impersonat'
[19:42:09]: TotallyNotVirtIO: yea 6.8
[19:42:12]: Lemmmy: even if it wasnt on there
[19:42:19]: Lemmmy: > Admins and moderators interpret the rules. You cannot argue about special cases.
[19:42:28]: *DistantTemple has gone AFK.
[19:42:31]: *DistantTemple is no longer AFK.
[19:42:59]: TotallyNotVirtIO: btw why did you choose yemmmel instead of ymmmel
[19:43:02]: scmcgowen: do you have any sort of xray detection plugin? I'd think that would interfere with block scanners
[19:43:02]: TotallyNotVirtIO: does it just sound better
[19:43:10]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i dont think so
[19:43:12]: Lemmmy: because ymmmel is not pronouncable
[19:43:25]: TotallyNotVirtIO: y mmmel
[19:43:31]: Lemmmy: scmcgowen: we don't use ore obfuscators
[19:43:39]: 6_4: i've been trying to find out which staff members interpret the rules more liberally so that I can ask them about the rules
[19:43:45]: Lemmmy: we noticed 6_4
[19:43:49]: 6_4: oh no
[19:43:54]: [D] SpaceRanger4827: oh no
[19:43:58]: scmcgowen: no, I mean like a detection plugin that tells you if we are sus for xray
[19:44:03]: TotallyNotVirtIO: yo
[19:44:04]: [D] SpaceRanger4827: time to run 6_4!
[19:44:04]: TotallyNotVirtIO: crab
[19:44:05]: Lemmmy: we do and its called 'susmods'
[19:44:22]: BorkusWolf has made the advancement [Getting an Upgrade]
[19:44:41]: [D] SpaceRanger4827: [susmods] 6_4 is a susy baka, detected rule interpreter runner.
[19:45:51]: BorkusWolf was shot by Skeleton
[19:45:59]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i just pressed ctrl b
[19:46:07]: TotallyNotVirtIO: but i dont have the software for the narrator to work
[19:46:12]: TotallyNotVirtIO: so i dodged a bullet
[19:46:48]: scmcgowen: there was one time I was running a plugin skyblock server that shut down in favor of a Going Boldly server that I had to deal with configuring NoCheatPlus. Everything that my friend (not a cheater) did was triggering warnings
[19:46:48]: 6_4: the minecraft client log writes this: 'Sorry, but Narrator does not work on M1. You go try fixing it'
[19:47:01]: 6_4: unfortunately, I have no idea where to start to go try fixing it
[19:47:11]: Lemmmy: yeah NC+ is a nightmare to work with
[19:47:24]: TotallyNotVirtIO: what is nc+
[19:47:25]: Lemmmy: i've only pulled it off successfully on a server once and it was back when your main enemy was zombe's modpack lol
[19:47:27]: 6_4: no cheat plus
[19:47:36]: scmcgowen: NC+ is an anti cheat plugin
[19:47:44]: TotallyNotVirtIO: oh right no cheat plus
[19:47:51]: scmcgowen: and it is a pain in the butt to get working properly
[19:47:54]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i've played too much tf2 fuckin nc auto completes to nullcore
[19:48:14]: scmcgowen: nullcore doesn't exist in TF2?
[19:48:20]: TotallyNotVirtIO: nullcore is a cheat
[19:48:26]: scmcgowen: oh lol
[19:48:52]: TotallyNotVirtIO: it got no updates in like 5 years but its still better than smth that released like half a year ago
[19:49:06]: scmcgowen: the only cheat that I know of for TF2 is Lmaobox
[19:49:21]: scmcgowen: as well as cathook which is the base of all the bots
[19:49:24]: TotallyNotVirtIO: have you heard of aimjunkies?
[19:49:28]: scmcgowen: no
[19:49:29]: TotallyNotVirtIO: not all the bots
[19:49:31]: TotallyNotVirtIO: some run rathook
[19:49:32]: 6_4: Lemmmy do you know what could be causing client side switchcraft memory leaks?
[19:49:35]: - ItzKeneh left the game
[19:49:45]: TotallyNotVirtIO: wolf mall managed to leak memory for me once
[19:49:52]: 6_4: oh yeah, wolf mall seems to do that
[19:49:54]: Lemmmy: honestly other than wolf mall and monitors i have not looked into client memory leaking because its never bothered me enough
[19:50:04]: You can create 3D claims with /cuboidclaims!
[19:50:04]: Lemmmy: the server has always been a higher priority
[19:50:19]: [D] SpaceRanger4827: just don't
[19:50:22]: - NerdSnoh left the game
[19:50:29]: 6_4: right now, after every GC lag spike the memory shown on F3 is something like 1700 MB
[19:50:36]: Lemmmy: jesus
[19:50:50]: 6_4 experienced kinetic energy
[19:51:00]: 6_4: maybe it's one of my random client side mods causing it
[19:51:08]: scmcgowen: I am not a cheater in TF2 as you may know. I play legit using TF2BD to remove bots from my matches
[19:51:45]: + Kc5f joined the game
[19:52:00]: scmcgowen: should I expand my base up or down?
[19:52:01]: kotahu: wb
[19:52:03]: Kc5f: hi
[19:52:14]: Kc5f: in the 4th dimension sc
[19:52:18]: scmcgowen: wb Kc5f
[19:52:20]: 6_4: what did you do Kc5f
[19:52:27]: Kc5f: what did I do to what?
[19:52:31]: 6_4: '4th dimension sc'
[19:52:33]: scmcgowen: this is MC, there is no 4th dimensino
[19:52:38]: + _HaLM_ joined the game
[19:52:42]: kotahu: wb
[19:52:42]: Lemmmy: wb
[19:52:44]: 6_4: wb
[19:52:49]: _HaLM_: hi
[19:52:53]: - 6_4 left the game
[19:52:59]: Kc5f: is the moon made of wisconson?
[19:53:08]: scmcgowen: no
[19:53:13]: _HaLM_: no its cheddar
[19:53:13]: Kc5f: sad
[19:53:18]: Kc5f: ah
[19:53:40]: scmcgowen: wisconson is a state in the USA which is on Earth, therefore the moon can't be made of wisconson
[19:53:51]: Kc5f: ah
[19:54:04]: scmcgowen: so up or down?
[19:54:19]: + 6_4 joined the game
[19:54:24]: Kc5f: down
[19:54:29]: scmcgowen: wb 6_4
[19:54:34]: _HaLM_: wb
[19:54:38]: 6_4: after relaunching the client the memory-after-GC-lagspike is 473MB
[19:54:43]: Lemmmy: embracing monorepo architecture
[19:55:17]: _HaLM_: im in france in public wifi in some random restaurant and playing switchcraft
[19:55:21]: Kc5f: I know this sounds stupid, but I wish claims were always 3D, and there was somehow more underground space
[19:56:07]: 9551Dev was vapourised by TotallyNotVirtIO
[19:56:14]: Kc5f: f
[19:56:14]: scmcgowen: why
[19:56:20]: 6_4: walking around wolf mall for a bit, then going back to my platform in the end to test, the memory after every GC lagspike is 767 MB
[19:56:20]: _HaLM_: f
[19:56:20]: _HaLM_: f
[19:56:20]: _HaLM_: f
[19:56:22]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i just have to
[19:56:48]: - Luca_S left the game
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[19:56:49]: scmcgowen: bruh the lag
[19:56:49]: 6_4: lag!
[19:57:03]: 6_4: wow, what happened
[19:57:08]: kotahu: mmm 3.8 tps
[19:57:18]: scmcgowen: your mom farted on the server /s
[19:57:26]: Kc5f: that was mean scmcgowen
[19:57:35]: Lemmmy: 6_4 transferred their GC spikes to us
[19:57:45]: kotahu: that's illegal
[19:58:08]: 6_4: yes, i gave the switchcraft server remote memory access to my java process so it could do the garbage collection
[19:58:17]: *DistantTemple has gone AFK.
[19:58:19]: *DistantTemple is no longer AFK.
[19:58:20]: TotallyNotVirtIO: btw is flying at mach 10 to someone and they firing 412312 power 5 lasers illegal
[19:58:25]: TotallyNotVirtIO: then(
[19:58:27]: TotallyNotVirtIO: *
[19:58:38]: 6_4: but, since hetzner is carbon neutral, i am Emitting Less Carbon and Saving The Environment by doing this!
[19:58:45]: Kc5f: my ichisel just stopped working somehow
[19:58:58]: Kc5f: oh wait nvm
[19:59:38]: 6_4: elytra-flying through wolf mall for some time and then going back to my end test platform sets the memory-after-GC-spike to like 1600 MB
[20:00:04]: You can create street signs with a computer by running streetsign.
[20:00:06]: Lemmmy: dang
[20:00:29]: Lemmmy: yes
[20:00:36]: 6_4: i'll see if leaving and then joining two minutes later has any impact
[20:00:38]: TotallyNotVirtIO: time to kidnap a cow
[20:00:39]: 6_4: scmcgowen: I can also see that
[20:00:44]: [D] Lemmmy: unknown.png
[20:00:45]: scmcgowen: so only I can't
[20:00:48]: [D] Lemmmy: remember that backslash commands are effectively public
[20:00:54]: [D] Lemmmy: because any computer can sign up to see them
[20:01:11]: [D] 6_4: unknown.png
[20:01:15]: - 6_4 left the game
[20:01:37]: scmcgowen: 6_4 GIVE ME THA SPY PROGRAM
[20:01:44]: TotallyNotVirtIO: time to hope i live near a slime chunk
[20:01:50]: [D] 6_4: it is extremely simple to make one yourself scmcgowen
[20:01:51]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i do
[20:02:12]: Lemmmy: i dont remember who raised it but im considering giving players access to our own cbspy command so that spy computers dont need to exist
[20:02:13]: Kc5f: yea it is
[20:02:25]: Kc5f: sc, I'll program you one for 40 krist
[20:02:37]: [D] 6_4: i'll send you my spy program for 35 krist
[20:02:40]: TotallyNotVirtIO: just use a websocket and a discord webhook
[20:03:56]: scmcgowen: does anyone want a bow? I have one that I don't need ever since I got this death laser
[20:03:58]: - BorkusWolf left the game
[20:04:08]: Kc5f: death laser?
[20:04:08]: Kc5f: wow
[20:04:12]: TotallyNotVirtIO: laserbeam
[20:04:21]: scmcgowen: death laser*
[20:04:38]: scmcgowen: it is my Evil Inc:tm: Death Laser
[20:04:49]: TotallyNotVirtIO: me when looking for cows
[20:04:57]: scmcgowen: why did you tpa me
[20:04:59]: Kc5f: yes
[20:05:06]: [D] 6_4: honestly just copy this https://chatbox.switchcraft.pw/docs/#basic-command-based-chat-bot , make it so that it only chatbox.tells your username, remove the if command == "echo" part, add the user who executed the command and the command name to the chatbox.tell message
[20:05:06]: scmcgowen: I am building
[20:05:21]: [D] 6_4: and remove the if #args > 0 part
[20:05:22]: Kc5f: this is what lasers are for
[20:05:25]: Kc5f was vapourised by [plethora]
[20:05:51]: kotahu: you won't find any cows
[20:05:54]: scmcgowen: these are not drugs for 6_4 lol
[20:05:56]: kotahu: znepb owns all the cows
[20:06:05]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i remember when i saw cows
[20:06:07]: [D] 6_4: ???
[20:06:11]: TotallyNotVirtIO: they didnt steal all the cows
[20:06:18]: scmcgowen: cows sometimes spawn near my baes
[20:06:20]: scmcgowen: base*
[20:06:30]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i would like to steal one
[20:06:31]: + 6_4 joined the game
[20:06:35]: kotahu: must be a mirage
[20:06:43]: scmcgowen: [DENIED]
[20:06:51]: 6_4: joining and leaving with the same client instance did NOT fix the memory leak issues
[20:07:07]: *DistantTemple has gone AFK.
[20:07:07]: TotallyNotVirtIO: katze
[20:07:08]: TotallyNotVirtIO: accept
[20:07:14]: TotallyNotVirtIO: or im gonna fly to you
[20:07:26]: TotallyNotVirtIO: asshole
[20:07:32]: TotallyNotVirtIO: open the hole
[20:07:34]: TotallyNotVirtIO: and let me out
[20:07:48]: scmcgowen: why did you tp to me though
[20:07:49]: TotallyNotVirtIO: and the door
[20:08:03]: TotallyNotVirtIO: no cows
[20:08:04]: TotallyNotVirtIO: scam
[20:08:13]: scmcgowen: they don't always spawn
[20:08:19]: TotallyNotVirtIO: why did you kill em
[20:08:19]: scmcgowen: and I didn't capture them
[20:08:32]: *Lemmmy has gone AFK.
[20:08:43]: TotallyNotVirtIO: the fuck is this
[20:08:52]: TotallyNotVirtIO: is this a poor attempt at a 0 tick farm
[20:09:00]: [D] BlackDragon: I finished Halo Reach
[20:09:02]: [D] BlackDragon: such sad ending
[20:09:10]: scmcgowen: wdym
[20:09:16]: [D] BlackDragon: The last mission is fighting till death
[20:09:20]: scmcgowen: no not you
[20:09:25]: [D] BlackDragon: and when you die. the cutscene starts.
[20:09:27]: TotallyNotVirtIO: mfw spoilers
[20:09:37]: scmcgowen: virtIO, what do you mean
[20:09:40]: [D] BlackDragon: Oh no
[20:09:41]: [D] BlackDragon: spoilers
[20:09:55]: TotallyNotVirtIO: eh i probably wont ever play halr reach
[20:10:00]: scmcgowen was vapourised by TotallyNotVirtIO
[20:10:01]: Give us a call if you need help! +1 (904) 867-4600
[20:10:05]: [D] BlackDragon: i hate the hunters
[20:10:13]: [D] BlackDragon: they throw stupid ass explosives at you
[20:10:22]: - Kc5f left the game
[20:10:23]: TotallyNotVirtIO: mad
[20:10:29]: + Kc5f joined the game
[20:10:30]: [D] BlackDragon: and are almost invulnerable
[20:10:44]: TotallyNotVirtIO: hi kotahu
[20:10:46]: kotahu: hi
[20:10:48]: kotahu was vapourised by TotallyNotVirtIO
[20:10:52]: TotallyNotVirtIO: oh si
[20:10:53]: TotallyNotVirtIO was slain by kotahu using    [§cYemmel's §6Flamin' §eWang]
[20:10:53]: scmcgowen: were you cursed, VirtIO
[20:11:01]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i wanted to open tab
[20:11:03]: TotallyNotVirtIO: also yes
[20:11:06]: TotallyNotVirtIO: waht about it
[20:11:20]: scmcgowen: you spawned monsters at my base
[20:11:21]: TotallyNotVirtIO: why is kotahu here
[20:11:41]: TotallyNotVirtIO: am i about to be informed that i am getting perma banned
[20:12:21]: TotallyNotVirtIO: kotahu what do you want
[20:12:27]: TotallyNotVirtIO: also i almost laser'd you
[20:12:37]: scmcgowen: which is illegal under Herr Katze Base rules Article 3 Section 2 paragraph 1
[20:12:59]: Kc5f: wait what
[20:13:03]: TotallyNotVirtIO: my ni fuckin died
[20:13:21]: Kc5f: my ender chest keeps randomly opening and closing
[20:13:23]: *Lemmmy is no longer AFK.
[20:13:28]: TotallyNotVirtIO: its public
[20:13:31]: TotallyNotVirtIO: someone is using it
[20:13:33]: Kc5f: ohh
[20:14:06]: *DistantTemple is no longer AFK.
[20:14:28]: TotallyNotVirtIO: COw
[20:15:00]: Kc5f: Hello to the person on the blue/blue/blue ender chest!
[20:15:01]: + BragosMagos joined the game
[20:15:20]: TotallyNotVirtIO: mfw 8 tps
[20:16:14]: 6_4 was vapourised by scmcgowen's mom using    [§fFart]
[20:16:33]: BragosMagos: Introducing the Backdoor Prograrm - Brag Labs will pay you krist for each backdoor you document and register for Brag Labs. The backdoors can be for anything, a door lock, a shop program, etc, although the more severe the backdoor is, the bigger your pay.
[20:16:47]: 6_4: interesting basement
[20:16:52]: scmcgowen: so what should I put in here
[20:16:59]: 6_4: i have an idea
[20:17:18]: 6_4: try putting something like this in your basement
[20:17:24]: Kc5f: What is the easiest way to get queen bees?
[20:17:28]: 6_4: Kc5f: breaking beehives
[20:17:31]: BragosMagos: PS For you to recieve your payment you are not permitted to tell anyone except Brag Labs about the backdoor, either before or after you recieve your payment Important
[20:17:32]: Kc5f: ah
[20:17:32]: 6_4: or using the market
[20:17:43]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i have to go 4k blocks to get to my factory
[20:17:44]: 6_4: BragosMagos: interesting idea..
[20:17:48]: BragosMagos: yes
[20:17:59]: BragosMagos: we pay handsome
[20:18:03]: 6_4: how much
[20:18:04]: BragosMagos: for backdoors
[20:18:13]: BragosMagos: depends on the severity of the backdoor
[20:18:25]: scmcgowen: yeah I'm not putting a bluescreen in my basement
[20:18:33]: 6_4: for (PURELY THEORETICALLY AND HYPOTHETICALLY) how much would you pay for an Opus OS backdoor
[20:18:39]: BragosMagos: hmm
[20:18:48]: scmcgowen: why did GD just welcome me to north korea?
[20:19:03]: scmcgowen: that's not my base's welcome message
[20:19:15]: DistantTemple: North Korea has nothing on Potatos
[20:20:01]: You can create street signs with a computer by running streetsign.
[20:20:08]: - scmcgowen left the game
[20:20:43]: TotallyNotVirtIO: oh god i have to move cows through a roofed forest
[20:20:45]: the_shadow_yt: should i move my base
[20:20:59]: the_shadow_yt: or just sell my base, and take the stuff out
[20:21:09]: + scmcgowen joined the game
[20:21:09]: TotallyNotVirtIO: boubt anyone's gonna buy it
[20:21:24]: the_shadow_yt: eh, its trash anyway
[20:21:25]: DistantTemple: puur lava on the forrest first
[20:21:38]: 6_4: BragosMagos: also, why do you want backdoors anyways?
[20:21:46]: BragosMagos: [REDACTED]
[20:21:46]: scmcgowen: how do I set a welcom message
[20:21:56]: BragosMagos: Brag Labs has its own reasons
[20:22:00]: TotallyNotVirtIO: claimwelcome
[20:22:02]: TotallyNotVirtIO: i think
[20:22:03]: BragosMagos: wich may or may not include blackmail
[20:22:14]: scmcgowen: Unknown command
[20:22:21]: 6_4: that would probably be against the rules of the server
[20:22:25]: BragosMagos: hmm
[20:22:25]: TotallyNotVirtIO: craimgreeting actually
[20:22:30]: BragosMagos: would it be against the rules
[20:22:32]: 6_4: the admins do have backups of every single computer
[20:22:36]: BragosMagos: to buy a backdoor for 100kst
[20:22:42]: Lemmmy: BragosMagos and 6_4 thank you for the incredibly entertaining conversation in DMs just now
[20:22:55]: BragosMagos: and sell the info to the people affected by the backdoor for 200kst
[20:23:02]: BragosMagos: no problem Lemmmy
[20:23:11]: TotallyNotVirtIO: ah yes backdoor opusos
[20:23:20]: Kc5f: Imagine using opus os
[20:23:20]: Kc5f: xD
[20:23:25]: 6_4: yeah, i was wondering if "Brag Labs" knew or not about staff PM surveillance
[20:23:32]: scmcgowen: could you create a physical backdoor to my base?
[20:23:33]: TotallyNotVirtIO: it do be kringe unless you're using it for milo
[20:23:37]: BragosMagos: ik about that surveiliance
[20:23:46]: BragosMagos: but we dont break the rules
[20:24:09]: 6_4: BragosMagos: so, theoretically, how would you approach these people worried about a backdoor? say "I will tell you about a backdoor in computer XXXXX for 200 krist"?
[20:24:29]: BragosMagos: lemmmy is it against the rules to buy info about a backdoor for x amount of kst and then sell that info to the people affected by the backdoor for x2 what i paid
[20:24:35]: Kc5f: why even backdoor opus os tho
[20:24:39]: BragosMagos: Excactly 6_4.
[20:25:08]: Lemmmy: BragosMagos that would be hiliarous and would entirely depend if the backdoor is real or is 'hypothetical'
[20:25:10]: - scmcgowen left the game
[20:25:16]: Kc5f: I don't think you can really blackmail somebody with their milo stats tbh
[20:25:17]: BragosMagos: if the backdoor is real
[20:25:55]: - TotallyNotVirtIO left the game
[20:26:17]: BragosMagos: oh and also 6_4
[20:26:21]: 6_4: BragosMagos
[20:26:38]: BragosMagos: in addition to syaing "I will sell you info about this backdoor in your computer for x amount of krist"
[20:26:42]: BragosMagos: I will also say
[20:27:07]: BragosMagos: "If you don't buy this info I will release it to people you don't want to have it"
[20:27:13]: BragosMagos: lemmmy would that be against rules
[20:27:22]: 6_4: BragosMagos: do you have currently existing backdoor software?
[20:27:44]: BragosMagos: wdym, I don't have any software to create a backdoor on a computer no
[20:28:14]: BragosMagos: But it is in developmen
[20:28:15]: BragosMagos: t
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[20:28:33]: Kc5f: Is there a way to make it so files aren't readable when you put a computer in a disk drive?
[20:28:41]: 6_4: aka: 'it will take 200 years to finish and when it is released it will be an easily detectable backdoor missing basic features'
[20:28:45]: 6_4: Kc5f: you could encrypt the files
[20:28:51]: 6_4: that would still make the files deletable, tho
[20:28:54]: Kc5f: ah
[20:28:55]: scmcgowen: so could you make a literal back door to my base that I could sneak out of
[20:28:58]: BragosMagos: how do i make a program thats unable to terminate
[20:29:07]: BragosMagos: without entering a secret password
[20:29:25]: 6_4: BragosMagos: if you are asking those questions maybe you should not try to make a backdoor before you learn about how the CC event system works
[20:29:27]: Kc5f: I kinda want to give out computers running custom software, and make sure that those computers don't just get wiped
[20:30:04]: Check out the new ComputerCraft Wiki! https://tweaked.cc
[20:30:21]: 6_4: Kc5f: if the admins allowed use of the /oc_nodis command you could give out unwipable-except-by-total-destruction OpenComputers Tablets
[20:30:26]: scmcgowen: oldPullEvent=os.pullEvent then os.pullEvent = os.pullEventRaw
[20:30:48]: Kc5f: scmcgowen, people can put a computer in a disk drive and just type rm *
[20:30:49]: - scmcgowen left the game
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[20:31:08]: 6_4: i think scmcgowen was responding to BragosMagos
[20:31:18]: + scmcgowen joined the game
[20:31:19]: BragosMagos: yes
[20:31:52]: 6_4: maybe i should try doing something productive instead of chatting and jumping around switchcraft for hours
[20:31:59]: Lemmmy: lol same...
[20:32:04]: Lemmmy: i've had intellij open all day and not written any code yet
[20:32:07]: Kc5f: we're being plenty productive
[20:32:16]: scmcgowen: did VirtIO get banned?
[20:32:18]: - scmcgowen left the game
[20:32:31]: 6_4: i guess scmcgowen got banned for asking about VirtIO's ban
[20:32:35]: DistantTemple: like practiceing programming, discussing computer security....
[20:32:48]: BragosMagos: who got banned?
[20:32:50]: Lemmmy: scmcgowen seems to be timing out
[20:32:56]: Lemmmy: were they the one playing from a restaurant
[20:33:03]: Kc5f: prob
[20:33:37]: 6_4: i wonder what other events happened on June 4 that would get people banned if they talked about them
[20:33:51]: Lemmmy: sounds ominous
[20:33:57]: [D] Herr Katze: I don't even know why I'm timing out recently
[20:34:11]: Lemmmy: might make it so that instead of "left the game" it shows "timed out"
[20:34:18]: Lemmmy: the console knows so should be possible
[20:35:02]: 6_4: totally nothing at all happened on June 4, 1989
[20:35:08]: Lemmmy: OH
[20:35:11]: Lemmmy: its the anniversary of that, i forgot
[20:35:16]: [D] Herr Katze: so why did VirtIO get banned? he DMed me
[20:35:38]: Lemmmy: VirtIO knows why they got banned and should've received a ban message, you will do yourself better to not get involved
[20:35:40]: Kc5f: wait what did virtio do?
[20:35:48]: Kc5f: k
[20:36:05]: *gollark has gone AFK.
[20:36:17]: 6_4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV6mIefxVM8
[20:36:40]: Kc5f: kinda sussy
[20:37:36]: *DistantTemple has gone AFK.
[20:38:46]: BragosMagos: how do i terminate a program with code
[20:39:04]: Lemmmy: depends on the code but one easy way as long as you're not wrapped in a pcall is to just call error("...")
[20:39:13]: BragosMagos: thanks
[20:39:14]: Lemmmy: if you're in a function you can return
[20:39:19]: Lemmmy: if you're in a loop you can break
[20:39:28]: Lemmmy: neither of those will cancel a pullEvent though
[20:39:33]: BragosMagos: breaking a while loop will end the program?
[20:39:40]: Lemmmy: it will end the loop
[20:39:46]: Lemmmy: as long as there's no code after it, it will end the program
[20:39:53]: kotahu: you could also queue a terminate event but that's not super cool
[20:40:01]: You can change the colour of your claims on Dynmap with /claimcolour.
[20:40:12]: BragosMagos: THANKS
[20:40:18]: BragosMagos: oops caps
[20:40:37]: Lemmmy: the fuck i'm on my third re-listen of the same house mix and all i've doen in intellij is copy a directory
[20:41:29]: BragosMagos: how do i combine a string and a int in a print statement
[20:41:38]: BragosMagos: aka a string and a variable
[20:41:44]: Lemmmy: the same way you combine strings normally, with the .. operator
[20:41:51]: Lemmmy: e.g. print("foo" .. myVar)
[20:41:53]: BragosMagos: thanks
[20:42:01]: *6_4 has gone AFK.
[20:42:54]: DistantTemple: concatenate with toString just ..  two dots
[20:42:54]: *DistantTemple is no longer AFK.
[20:45:10]: BragosMagos: how do i wipe the computer/delete all files from code
[20:45:26]: Kc5f: messy way: shell.run('rm', '*');
[20:45:31]: BragosMagos: thanks
[20:46:22]: *6_4 is no longer AFK.
[20:46:22]: - Kc5f left the game
[20:47:53]: BragosMagos: how do I make sure
[20:47:54]: *DistantTemple has gone AFK.
[20:48:03]: BragosMagos: that a program from a disk wont run on startup
[20:48:13]: 6_4: `set shell.allow_disk_startup false
[20:48:14]: 6_4: set shell.allow_disk_startup false
[20:48:17]: 6_4: that is a shell command
[20:48:18]: BragosMagos: thanks
[20:48:26]: BragosMagos: does that save
[20:48:31]: 6_4: if you want to use it from lua you should do shell.run
[20:48:31]: BragosMagos: if you reboot the computer
[20:48:33]: 6_4: i think so
[20:48:36]: BragosMagos: thanks
[20:48:57]: DistantTemple: does anone use a turtle emulator on windows? and is it faster/better than pastebinning the code to an in-game turtle constantly ?
[20:48:58]: *DistantTemple is no longer AFK.
[20:49:22]: 6_4: wondering what turtle emulators exist
[20:49:27]: *Lemmmy has gone AFK.
[20:50:01]: DistantTemple: Sure Id heard a couple of years back.
[20:50:02]: The Krist commands are /balance, /deposit, and /pay!
[20:50:24]: 6_4: if you're being slowed down by constant pastebinning you can use cloud-catcher
[20:50:42]: DistantTemple: Cloud-catcher????
[20:51:00]: 6_4: basically it is a code editor online and you can press ctrl+s and it saves to your in-game computer
[20:51:08]: 6_4: https://cloud-catcher.squiddev.cc
[20:51:12]: DistantTemple: ah ha
[20:51:17]: 6_4: you can skip the wget step if you are on SwitchCraft or using Opus OS
[20:51:27]: DistantTemple: ty will try it. ok ty
[20:51:45]: kotahu: you could also try \editor
[20:51:50]: kotahu: very very alpha
[20:51:54]: BragosMagos: hey 6_4 come here
[20:51:55]: DistantTemple: do you use it? is it useful?
[20:52:01]: kotahu: I wrote it
[20:52:02]: DistantTemple: ot ty as well
[20:52:02]: BragosMagos: i made
[20:52:07]: BragosMagos: malware
[20:52:51]: 6_4: sorry BragosMagos i did not see your tpa
[20:53:04]: BragosMagos: so malware is installed here
[20:53:13]: BragosMagos: if i reboot
[20:53:18]: 6_4: could you containertrust me so I can see the effects of this malware
[20:53:20]: BragosMagos: ugh
[20:53:22]: BragosMagos: 2 sec
[20:54:02]: 6_4: 2 seconds completed a long time ago
[20:54:36]: 6_4: also BragosMagos your shop does not work
[20:54:41]: BragosMagos: ik
[20:54:43]: BragosMagos: uhm
[20:54:49]: 6_4: please give me back 1
[20:54:58]: 6_4: and also maybe you should take it down or turn it off if it does not work
[20:55:29]: BragosMagos: uh 6_4
[20:55:33]: 6_4: BragosMagos
[20:55:40]: BragosMagos: uhm
[20:55:47]: 6_4: i still am unable to see the effects of your 'malware'
[20:55:47]: BragosMagos: i gave you trust
[20:55:54]: BragosMagos: can you help me with my issue
[20:56:05]: 6_4: you have a lot of different claims here are you sure you gave me trust in the right one
[20:56:13]: BragosMagos: think so
[20:56:34]: 6_4: oh, i can see it now
[20:56:49]: 6_4: you mistyped *
[20:56:54]: BragosMagos: ah thanks
[20:57:03]: *DistantTemple has gone AFK.
[20:57:20]: 6_4: you need an extra end here
[20:57:25]: BragosMagos: ok
[20:57:45]: BragosMagos: wait
[20:57:50]: BragosMagos: go away for a secd
[20:57:53]: 6_4: ok
[20:58:11]: BragosMagos: ok come
[20:58:25]: BragosMagos: so to demonstarte
[20:58:52]: BragosMagos: so this is a dummy file
[20:58:56]: BragosMagos: for testing
[20:58:58]: BragosMagos: now
[20:59:10]: BragosMagos: now we have the malware
[20:59:18]: BragosMagos: now
[20:59:25]: BragosMagos: if we enter correct password
[20:59:34]: BragosMagos: it terminates the program
[20:59:40]: BragosMagos: and you can remove malware
[20:59:48]: BragosMagos: but
[20:59:52]: BragosMagos: look
[21:00:02]: You can create GriefPrevention claims with a golden shovel. Get one by running /kit gp!
[21:00:30]: 6_4: you seem to print the wiped files message a bit too early
[21:00:38]: BragosMagos: yes
[21:00:39]: BragosMagos: ik
[21:00:41]: BragosMagos: i will fix
[21:01:26]: BragosMagos: noo
[21:01:28]: 6_4: ftfy
[21:01:44]: 6_4: (by the way, that'll also remove the virus itself - you did back this up, right?
[21:01:50]: BragosMagos: yes
[21:02:28]: BragosMagos: wut
[21:02:28]: 6_4: i guessed the password :)
[21:02:31]: BragosMagos: uhm
[21:02:33]: BragosMagos: wait 2 sec
[21:02:36]: BragosMagos: dont touch pc
[21:02:54]: 6_4: ok, so there are a lot of problems with your 'ransomware' and your approach
[21:03:12]: 6_4: 1. ransomware does not work because people can request to have their computer restored from backup by server staff
[21:03:31]: 6_4: 2. it would get you banned whether or not it worked
[21:03:41]: BragosMagos: oh
[21:03:45]: BragosMagos: would it get me bannefd
[21:03:48]: kotahu: (see rule 9)
[21:03:53]: BragosMagos: ok
[21:03:56]: BragosMagos: will fix
[21:04:00]: 6_4: 3. maybe you shouldn't advertise the fact that your "Brag Labs" and "BragosMagos" are behind this ransomware at all
[21:04:12]: *Lemmmy is no longer AFK.
[21:04:30]: 6_4: 4. you don't actually encrypt the files or even put them in memory so anybody can mine the computer and place it in a disk drive to get their files back
[21:04:57]: BragosMagos: hmm
[21:04:58]: BragosMagos: rule 9
[21:05:12]: BragosMagos: if i disguise my install
[21:05:13]: BragosMagos: like
[21:05:14]: BragosMagos: hi
[21:05:23]: BragosMagos: im here for your extended car warranty
[21:05:27]: BragosMagos: to get your warranty
[21:05:35]: BragosMagos: i must install some programs on your computer
[21:05:39]: BragosMagos: do you consent?
[21:05:44]: 6_4: you did not read rule 9 carefully enough BragosMagos
[21:05:55]: gollark: Wow, I have been very AFK.
[21:05:55]: *gollark is no longer AFK.
[21:05:58]: 6_4: 5. it would be hard to install this software on people's computers without them knowing it's you
[21:06:04]: kotahu: 9.4: It is absolutely unacceptable to pretend a malicious program is not actually malicious, and it must be made very clear that it is malicious during every interaction.
[21:06:13]: BragosMagos: ah ok
[21:06:21]: BragosMagos: then i wont pretend it aint malicius
[21:06:27]: BragosMagos: i will say it is malicius
[21:06:32]: gollark: Ransomware would be perfectly acceptable if you brand and explain and advertise it as such, yes.
[21:06:32]: the_shadow_yt: lemmy, ive been wanting to setup my shop in wolf mall, but nobody has responded to my dms
[21:06:42]: the_shadow_yt: lemmmy*
[21:06:45]: gollark: * Lemy
[21:06:50]: 6_4: *Mr. E
[21:06:53]: gollark: * Yemmel
[21:06:54]: + Kc5f joined the game
[21:06:57]: kotahu: do you have an example shop set up?
[21:07:12]: A teleport request was sent to BragosMagos.
[21:07:15]: the_shadow_yt: yea at my trash base im moving out of soon
[21:07:19]: You have teleported to BragosMagos's location.
[21:07:27]: gollark: Ah, this must be "Brag Labs".
[21:08:02]: the_shadow_yt: theres just random stuff in it as of rn
[21:08:08]: the_shadow_yt: mostly junk i dont need
[21:08:14]: gollark: Much like the GTech™ R&D floor.
[21:08:22]: 6_4: there is literally zero way to distribute your ransomware, BragosMagos, without the staff being able to track it down to you
[21:08:23]: BragosMagos: yes
[21:08:25]: Kc5f was vapourised by [plethora]
[21:08:27]: kotahu: wolfmall shops tend to have a specific theme
[21:08:27]: BragosMagos: ik
[21:08:31]: BragosMagos: ehn i will just'
[21:08:32]: the_shadow_yt: ah
[21:08:33]: BragosMagos: have it
[21:08:34]: BragosMagos: own it
[21:08:35]: gollark: Sure there is.
[21:08:37]: BragosMagos: if anyone wants ut
[21:08:40]: BragosMagos: take it
[21:08:41]: gollark: I can think of some ways to do it.
[21:08:51]: 6_4: gollark: such as?
[21:08:54]: gollark: They might be slightly impractical.
[21:09:13]: gollark: 6_4: acquire an alt account; use it through a VPN; install it on some public computer and cause it to spread through disks.
[21:09:24]: *Lemmmy has gone AFK.
[21:09:27]: the_shadow_yt: the one that will be in wolf mart is going to have better items
[21:09:40]: gollark: Build self-replicating turtles which also produce malware disks, but disguise this activity until there are no more logs of the turtles' original placer.
[21:10:03]: You can create street signs with a computer by running streetsign.
[21:10:13]: gollark: Build a computer entirely out of redstone, which I assume the admins do not have much tooling for.
[21:10:13]: 6_4: well, the staff would still be able to track down the ransomware to BragosMagos because he wrote it on this server
[21:10:18]: Kc5f: public computers?
[21:10:25]: gollark: There are a few publicly accessible computers, probably.
[21:10:30]: Kc5f: ah
[21:10:43]: the_shadow_yt: jeez i forgot these where overpriced
[21:10:52]: the_shadow_yt: some are
[21:10:57]: gollark: Become the leader of Tmpim, control God, deploy the ransomware, [REDACTED] anyone who knows about it.
[21:10:58]: 6_4: the only publicly-accessible non-restricted computers I know of are the ones at terra's random building
[21:11:01]: BragosMagos: os.sleep takes an int as argument not a string ritght
[21:11:12]: 6_4: gollark: yeah that is a bit impractical
[21:11:16]: gollark: For you, perhaps.
[21:11:20]: the_shadow_yt: prices will be changed at wolf mall too
[21:11:26]: kotahu: brb
[21:11:28]: 6_4: you could just stop at "Become the leader of Tmpim" and then give yourself infinite krist
[21:11:30]: the_shadow_yt: ok
[21:11:42]: Kc5f: We all know the easiest way to spread a virus is to convince an admin to change the SC host DNS server to a custom one where you replace the Opus OS installer with custom code
[21:11:43]: gollark: But that wouldn't result in the ransomware being deployed.
[21:11:52]: gollark: Wrong, Kc5f.
[21:12:00]: gollark: You couldn't just touch DNS; you'd also have to mess with HTTPS in some way.
[21:12:19]: Kc5f: tell people it's a CC bug and you needa use HTTP
[21:12:21]: 6_4: gollark: getting infinite krist would fulfill the original goal of the ransomware (gain krist) so at that point the ransomware is slightly pointless
[21:12:31]: BragosMagos: whats the best way to decrease a variable by 1
[21:12:36]: 6_4: i = i - 1
[21:12:38]: gollark: Yet it would not satisfy the thing I specified.
[21:13:02]: Kc5f: if only CC used js, you could just do i -= 1
[21:13:04]: the_shadow_yt: this is overpriced, the prices will be changed
[21:13:07]: BragosMagos: hey 6_4
[21:13:10]: BragosMagos: help pls
[21:13:15]: gollark: Actually, if you can infiltrate a big ISP and hosting provider simultaneously, they can probably mess with BGP/DNS and have a HTTPS intermediate certificate (collectively).
[21:13:19]: 6_4: you could also just stop at "Become the leader of Tmpim" and copy the ransomware startup.lua into all the computer directory
[21:13:22]: Kc5f: Yes
[21:13:23]: Kc5f: I agree
[21:13:24]: kotahu: the_shadow_yt: this shop does not refund krist sent to an undefined item type, such as test@sbm.kst, but otherwise it is fine
[21:13:27]: BragosMagos: ok so
[21:13:31]: gollark: You could then redirect all requests for Lua code from SC to your server.
[21:13:34]: the_shadow_yt: ohhhh
[21:13:41]: BragosMagos: that is a incorrect password
[21:13:46]: *Lemmmy is no longer AFK.
[21:13:46]: BragosMagos: but it doesnt print the thing
[21:13:55]: gollark: Oh no, Lemmmy has seen my plans.
[21:13:56]: 6_4: try adding a sleep somewhere in there
[21:14:01]: BragosMagos: and here it does some thing
[21:14:08]: the_shadow_yt: shoot
[21:14:29]: BragosMagos: yes but still
[21:14:35]: Kc5f: Hey Lemmmy, would you mind temporarilly changing the server's DNS servers to a sketchy address while me and gollark infiltrate an ISP to create fake HTTP certs?
[21:14:40]: the_shadow_yt: how do i fix it
[21:14:48]: gollark: TLS certificates, not HTTP certs.
[21:14:51]: BragosMagos: it should tell you that first message each time you enter incorrect password
[21:14:52]: Kc5f: oh yeah
[21:14:57]: gollark: And you'd infiltrate a big hosting company for that part.
[21:15:01]: 6_4: you could just infiltrate Hetzner and mess with the server
[21:15:05]: gollark: Oh, that's a good idea.
[21:15:37]: Kc5f: does CC even protect agenst self-signed certs?
[21:15:38]: BragosMagos: eh my malware works
[21:15:39]: gollark: Alternatively, we could infiltrate Lemmmy's electricity provider, and harvest their SSH private key via power-based side-channel attacks on their computer.
[21:15:42]: BragosMagos: but kinda broken
[21:15:46]: gollark: Kc5f: Yes, crypto's not done in the CC side.
[21:15:46]: BragosMagos: but who cares'
[21:15:47]: Kc5f: YES
[21:15:56]: BragosMagos: if anyone wants some malware hmu
[21:16:05]: gollark: Oh yes, another good way would be to find a RCE in native Lua 5.3 and spread malware via OpenComputers.
[21:16:08]: BragosMagos: also the backdoor program is still in effect for anyone interested
[21:16:09]: gollark: I mean, it's in C, it obviously has bugs.
[21:16:32]: 6_4: https://www.lua.org/bugs.html
[21:16:36]: gollark: Oh, or you could revert the server's version of ComputerCraft via some sort of downgrade attack, and use the string metatable bug.